From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QsbuT-0001ih-9s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:43:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A91221C245; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from petteriraty.eu (petteriraty.eu [188.40.80.83]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2926B21C229 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.130.46.232] (qoc0.kyla.fi [82.130.46.232]) by petteriraty.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5527026C84 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E47DEC7.9030605@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:42:15 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fi; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090916 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Should DevRel members be in Council? References: <4E47ADA0.2060906@gentoo.org> <4E47BD6E.3080500@gentoo.org> <4E47BF0C.9090703@gentoo.org> <4E47CA3D.3070700@gentoo.org> <4E47D0C2.1020007@gentoo.org> <4E47D61A.30804@gentoo.org> <4E47D790.5050302@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4E47D790.5050302@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre OpenPGP: id=B8E4ECF0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4AA6A689BC2BB0B5F0E9612C" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 40a03052af0f4cf66552476b06897bec This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4AA6A689BC2BB0B5F0E9612C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14.08.2011 17:11, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 08/14/2011 03:05 PM, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: >> On 14.08.2011 16:42, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> >>>> So lets try with an example: >>> >>>> A dev wants to join the Sunrise project and i as the lead say no >>>> to him. >>> >>>> This means, both 1 and 2 are already done, 3 does not seem >>>> reasonable to me, since it looks unlikely to me, that DevRel >>>> could/should force a team to accept a new member, which would end >>>> with the last point. And if both sides keep their point, council >>>> could either force his addition, which will usually mean, that >>>> the team lead leaves or accept the decision of the team lead. >>> >>> >>> I don't think Council is eligible to force this. The council is >>> not supposed to interfere with how teams operate. >>> >=20 >> The precedent is that Council can rule whatever it wants besides=20 >> changing GLEP 39. Of course in a volunteer project some might never >> get executed. Changing eligibility rules for the council requires a >> change to GLEP 39 so it's not something we can vote on in the next >> meeting. >=20 >> Regards, Petteri >=20 >=20 > Fair enough. I was pretty sure that the Council was not supposed to > instruct projects how to operate. But anyway, this is irrelevant to the= > initial discussion. >=20 I think Tommy presented a valid question but you are just missing the point. DevRel is just a body that is more likely to do decisions that are doing to be appealed to the council. Regards, Petteri --------------enig4AA6A689BC2BB0B5F0E9612C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJOR97HAAoJEPeUsk245OzwOncP/jdAqEA1I/FDE3WZIkzmO93F bID533gq/U03uR8y7gwUjHXudBONb98TBjhBM5l/+FvGzLwXvsczT6VNcaM6jDtI t4lxw/iGv9hkj/YFtIvl766AuS8iiezoN/qLpGZWsQ8q+sWJyjoIsy6bIqZEpGvz jDOBjMAl65Pf/WaYLwf6IwU3f4TxkMtXm81YcjBhH+Pm2EmqPUks9nqx64yv3njd 8RX/6T7xUL58eqJln9SZOrjC2b0WwarWuyFuUJ9d63T7oW6ZHw24z3YXqx7AZK76 A+dq2taVChSs/X1vsSYc7xJZl+tlIgRtrh57PCIEsG7xwQ7AQ2+h389pv6CAT/0M MtSWaaFc+uu15zsZ+jVdOC3QhG5NXRAGYxAi5e3PJjd6jjDLFz49JkZHNcJY+01/ q0k3ghts379D48YDE6Vh2KFKtCyj9OiM025+LMh5HHFlb3aTjkPJ3Ge24p0O/6qT S2Cd2iWxrdddmtQ+IXUErFYaTNfRsYI6isxpPWatjgGenzIf30TxIR3kR2v6MYMq tJZT0Ya64FvUtcwU/P+djwjKPOsdsfbhG/4FDeensg4PjKEt39C5/wYXcJkRwtq8 hHPNdA3xNmxrVz2RrLQU4nyAxaZ/7oxDtPzs+aWy01acTE4GZweAW9yPH5KwPTvU DItoKBZO3AO7Gq+/x0i/ =d9sj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4AA6A689BC2BB0B5F0E9612C--