From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QsZ5c-0003qt-7j for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:42:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D189821C1CA; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4B121C1A0 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so3973471wyg.40 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DOELrYET514KdqE2wVuoXUdVP2+NACMvA31va5I5SJQ=; b=WhJNm9VG2Clzk63jp2xixg4jYTfpFveCN60V016964q3ifJF8oYZ59TTUY0s0CF4bH ogkp+VbUMjb8rpkKdQYh9gtof6qLJZsr6VZ+gkE0cow44ld5R5Erlj2/PKSABnO8WfeT vbH/eQL8m738G8Cx0lEiExfrRFOKEd4AzICA8= Received: by 10.216.93.3 with SMTP id k3mr1192376wef.67.1313322148541; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.88.185.147] (wh147a.halls.manchester.ac.uk [130.88.185.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fn12sm3720551wbb.55.2011.08.14.04.42.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 14 Aug 2011 04:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Markos Chandras Message-ID: <4E47B480.1070204@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 12:41:52 +0100 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110721 Thunderbird/5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel References: <4E47AC51.3030201@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 5ccad1a0e81fd6ffd337370366cb4d74 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 08/14/2011 12:35 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Are you suggesting that the leader has to be chosen within the team, > or that the council has to vote on individual team members? I'm not > sure I like either of these. I'd rather keep it simple: the council > can pick any developer they want to be the leader whatsoever, and > then the leader can run the team how they see fit. This is what I mean. The leader chooses the members of the team ( to ensure that sane or qualified people are part of the team ). However, the leader is appointed by the council. > >> Devrel: 1 year term. Developers are nominated by others or they >> can self-nominated >> >> QA: 6-month term. Developers are nominated by others or they can >> self-nominated > > So, my thought is something more like: > > 1. The council reaches out to DevRel and QA teams and solicits > recommendations from them for the next team leader. 2. The council > sends to -dev an email summarizing the recommendations and other > candidates being considered, soliciting feedback from the dev > community. 3. The council agrees by majority vote on who they want > to lead each team - that can be anybody in #1 or #2. Waiting periods > for feedback are at the council's discretion. 4. If a year goes by > and all is well, the council goes back to #1. 5. If at any point > things are not well, the council is welcome to go back to #1 at any > time. Nobody is given a guaranteed time in "office." > Yes fair points, and it seems to me that the bureaucracy overhead is minimum. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOR7SAAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCYEEQAMESO7R99CZPeFf6JwMaCbBh jsvSrOUsYaegbIDC7XSlPcJ4R3J/0de8qVRNqlJFnsPn84S3Y1w287GcSWZeOfgK swwYor8y1HcyzUjhqHEe3laegdstMwu7SxwTx8vdF2Pz5dSmbHwQ6i9GWKJsx0H3 PBEDNCowZPh6iIOw/nhAuHpamP7c7QDfyVDbcR4g7GSZ5aD79BV5Dc0gnYGho/LI twFDHAe1mwBh8/VnxC2k/OUwVfd724JjxUQCs3dysKuooyQb4xyMXnOjurLVbsEt vQnSEpQRXtMcO7rqpS/Cdoyg9hXQmKMXX/xdK4ghQLyOLTKLjp+I2uPCRq80G2o1 o2dxGvE9IKjiAbecKas1CSwrrVm7BOTmXox+ibDRH/XWQefzXiN2DNYCZjb8gI7g pYgY4vxWs+BiYGjxIE+/F+6wVFlAOU+Qg/BJejBIzT2Ee64Jf2AYmwO/n7camxP0 yvXjwzvPI5SZJzG72q3FuSUQe8wjHdYJ5o3OKd3b00J8C33WXyUOxCmoGNtJmzlX J0qc06Dr2oWBP+aZU0cQU4HnbrVxdnY24KXWA+DxKzOq+ToUk/J7Jd5wYE4d5PhL 6wzBWvf5A6Y6NcKE490xhaercCPqz+uFLFjjXb2k5YQ0n4ehnAdgc2slP62DVS/G epoa3KIurEJvCf1LV4uH =Qcrp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----