From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QpgPW-0005cl-HC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:55:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F4D721C145; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B7221C11D for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf25 with SMTP id 25so791051wwf.10 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=I7uJmZVy8H54Q3zpP1f/gNKTqvff/M2vF+S+yK+KH+g=; b=jKcLXStiDYMHGaHoJn0SziMJx4ojdpxgMWZJDUUjolqGYc51tMDUAQbeEcf1WJ/Pot uVyMgQI8vqjLqoUukEO5whdcUj9fHZgC89UcwHKZ2U6nMUloUxKaGcng5Mor1i6CCUeu rC+p2zZ3g9VjH/ehuwigodJIRO+MiTuKZZgZg= Received: by 10.227.59.10 with SMTP id j10mr2852904wbh.96.1312635306948; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.88.185.147] (wh147a.halls.manchester.ac.uk [130.88.185.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fe4sm3016459wbb.45.2011.08.06.05.55.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Markos Chandras Message-ID: <4E3D398F.80301@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:54:39 +0100 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110721 Thunderbird/5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years References: <4E3BED69.6060003@gentoo.org> <20110805134412.GC17729@gentoo.org> <4E3BF61F.7050300@gentoo.org> <4E3C1B32.2020105@gentoo.org> <4E3C39C5.3010700@gentoo.org> <4E3CB0E3.4030108@gentoo.org> <4E3D10B0.80107@gentoo.org> <20110806114921.GA20656@gentoo.org> <4E3D2C95.2030107@gentoo.org> <20110806124756.GB20656@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20110806124756.GB20656@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: acb74c4a13ab1ced821b6d2cbeb9d490 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/2011 01:47 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 06-08-2011 12:59:17 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>>> This should be the arch more developers use daily and is >>>>> likely the one with more members (herd count). Also, one >>>>> should remember the time it takes to compile, test or debug >>>>> an issue in a recent amd64 system or an old / slow box with >>>>> an "exotic arch" varies substantially. Not to mention that >>>>> the amount of testing done on "exotic arches" varies >>>>> substantially between projects. >>>> I am aware of the problems and this is way I want a solution. >>> >>> And what solution do you have in mind (in your Council role)? >> >> Drop stable keywords for certain arches and/or remove their >> keywords from X packages. The idea is to keep only a single and >> smaller portage tree which would be much more easier to manage. >> Pretty much the same situation as MIPS. It worked pretty well on >> MIPS, so it will work on these arches too > > As Jorge already pointed out, what you consider to be a solution > here, others don't. And that is also the reason why the Council is, > what you perceive as, slow. > > I am talking as a developer not as a council member. I am not sure who others are since it is only you,me and Jorge that participate in this thread. However, I accept that the majority of devs may be happy (I always take silence as a way to say "blah blah blah > /dev/null) to keep around ebuild versions from 2010 until exotic-arch-#14 stabilizes it. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOPTmPAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCW5sQAI6vZBkF/lKFf/D1q8/QDM5I CLeTd3wBsrk3mKKQ84jk4wUtoTD2ju0ZZ5LU6NHsAIKEYMq2Do3psXZ0nj6DGHOw 7juv0rUPtr3lOCFuf5VVMtMxx4MdBmPCbAgyzdPvz4uToTfAOe6pbSdiTBFOe2Zq ZSgsu2PHrea92NVUHdcuChNb+3omarfMuc2ciOYxbQcP04bvLgAkU8vXnSq57IHy r5LU9IfFx1x0Isd7To3pxDz4PfXtHVYPdenH55ugGqjJeEB5GcwLrWCIj6L4VBXS WmjGxe10rHWHYSe4PyRMmMBlTdK+VvEW6Egklp+dlMg9zZpgT3xyqHoZsCPIfflK 7CDed6q6S5sJ8mTi8TTfvhT/mhZgnUlnX9mfEoPySW3JHKQTNkCgH3KJr5NBZxqs Evw2PgaREgYDQQFogNTG98o092WHxn9+mgeolTmo+I3w6BKmD6BP+qSGm6bXvdM1 20WPUDzFdQtvEsfXzwwzQvr1Vm1JQFY8oXoH2ul/cyqkBzuotylkNAu9+Me+B8fQ dmNnfuWiaaEEGgI/FHLxlbar0nOdmWwlQg11NwnOv5/uUjMyeA8ulC1kJ64Sin1s whIVrPZIPGssW7g5jwNpMkVm1EEKhy+UYyWieO66cjZvBfJWGlhAjzQokx0+BkU4 EkmbNRqg+vT0gApRum0Q =d90R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----