From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OP3cr-00076X-Kj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:10:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42B07E0EA9; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B49E0EA9 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (bl9-37-150.dsl.telepac.pt [85.242.37.150]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359631B4054 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1975F7.5010903@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:10:15 +0000 From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100411 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] The mis-concept of "slacking" in Gentoo References: <4C184B06.8040806@gentoo.org> <4C18FFE4.4080908@gentoo.org> <4C1909D4.7010703@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C1909D4.7010703@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: efa5d43b-7e1d-4401-8eb8-fe49d7024d9d X-Archives-Hash: 8abe1b75964528b15a509a2b4b4b6253 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16-06-2010 17:28, Steve Dibb wrote: >>> To get this mis-concept out again I need your help. >>> There is no such thing as slacking in Gentoo - no matter how many weeks >>> you ran without commits. It's time to get this understanding back to >>> its healthy counterpart. > > I'm not sure what problem you are trying to tackle. > > The way I see it, there are a few types of "slacker" status. > > There are those who are just plain busy, and can't respond in a timely > manner due to real-life issues. Then there are a group who just don't > have time for Gentoo as a regular maintenance task anymore, but still > participate in discussions, development, etc. Then there's the last > group who are completely unresponsive and inactive -- these are the ones > that are real blockers. > > I don't like the idea of pretending there's no such thing as slacking, > because there is. > > We do have a practical problem (though I don't know how serious it is). > We have healthy roll calls in some herds, but the developers are in a > certain range of active to unresponsive. When the herd is filled up, > this gives developers and users the impression that it *should* be well > tendered, but that may not be the case. So everyone can have an idea, I'd suggest looking at the list of the open retirement bugs[1]. As there seems to be some confusion about the policies to retire developers, please read the undertakers page[2]. [1] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Gentoo+Developers%2FStaff&component=Retirement&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=retirement%40gentoo.org&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= [2] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/undertakers/index.xml > Steve > - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMGXX3AAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPBAYQAIuMselVRdv3I8y+L4cMci51 dTq4aCEHv8BxdNU4MeruKZLnmzJ+0C40p5tb9STy6e6A0gJSJDdqSov0PEL3kyzg jgFRvP5SXgQN1YyBwNb/Icqc29bVyRgaeUEmB6+OrRAJj9D1Cg1+GQV0x4SswviX RVUpePgBBzN/0Yu4ezLvWeUOTWxop1uvRYy5dBmhN8YPL42t7D+RrYwiy43g0Zp5 2OdPlb375Ffu1AgHO3srHoeyE4GrIvy9gTtasaecKQxFn5GUWpUZcqcUWc+ws07K 5VGoF/Bim9973M3bNw/qKp8Gm/WWJyRBFTK9exTAqskHHy4ZznElVf1+2ccNA16I rrLIYWRtsBMkNiYRt1jAV00qBQrqUco3vTHlEV2SuprqSqzN7BTBz5hHrGamGgIm 1tydn3ZIJEpU+WlImSQtq0l4G017JjocvFrlTKGIssR9rE98u3JVOboobOvUGilS z4WzPW2JfHuFdx4Kp3/L3DcLUqkoxdOnG1YA8nT04Fzz4FI2SeHvnQkqK4IiDo7Y QH95KlmvX5g+jqNWiSZlQCStg8TAaEvj4/y41Xw4X2WiQUnUvaVykdj+JFg8I68S NUOjDQKkmJvX4Tv5af0eH+fuLQ6wNXddSl8/AKP76SnF4EzJdGqx0pZMsGdw+lLs 4/FWU4QP3WUU8F3D3REn =5Hqa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----