From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OOvlD-0002pS-Bx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:46:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 959E2E0BA6; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768A0E0BA6 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.109] (fi122.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [80.53.34.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D49E1B404D for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C18FFE4.4080908@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:46:28 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?IlBhd2XFgiBIYWpkYW4sIEpyLiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] The mis-concept of "slacking" in Gentoo References: <4C184B06.8040806@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C184B06.8040806@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig95B94DF376E18654F5106A08" X-Archives-Salt: c0d3a123-5738-4fde-b20a-2bad1bae5c42 X-Archives-Hash: 6aebafa8d509976fd860b8f4b0390fc2 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig95B94DF376E18654F5106A08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/16/10 5:54 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > As far as I know most if not all Gentoo developers do unpaid voluntary > work in and for Gentoo. So every single minute a Gentoo developer puts= > into Gentoo is a gift, incontrast to understanding every other minute a= > stolen one. How come such a wrong concept even made it into the proces= s > of the council? Officially being marked as a slacker? Is that the onl= y > way to ensure an active council? I think it's confusing you mention the council here. Council is there to make decisions. If people miss the meetings, we can't make decisions. Also, note that a council member can be proxied by other developer. > To get this mis-concept out again I need your help. > There is no such thing as slacking in Gentoo - no matter how many weeks= > you ran without commits. It's time to get this understanding back to > its healthy counterpart. Could you explain more? Is it about people retiring because of that? If so, then I agree we should permit some "leaves of absence" or maybe even "sabbaticals" to keep talented people in the project, while allowing them to rest. Also, one can return after retiring. Pawe=C5=82 --------------enig95B94DF376E18654F5106A08 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwY/+kACgkQuUQtlDBCeQJ86ACfZFRgvsLLS8/ilHz3coU1v85b JiEAniBr5RYWQF0BiaHuOvWFXCrWot7F =mKTM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig95B94DF376E18654F5106A08--