From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEmEG-0004zD-MR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:53:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A88F9E0848; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69796E0848 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j3so80844ugf.49 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:53:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2mYCuomJ9kQnrYefHsWA0A2xB4ld3A7/8hNcIflraCs=; b=bLuIszGXxOmPit0JwSuistIbF/Z4T4HCnZygm/xmkTlvkuVUa3ImRw3QaAk1OWAh8xfEjzMCd+K77432OwcuKaOiNO1BNeTZdEOX7weGkPmRVihQocX9ktEHLjrGic4ZwNRqJHGAQ7faJKiwmosSgcW6gp5cawfo6aZPVTK+Muw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EZcW76fH56vEW6eAcatVAbLIXA5cKJUvjQDvaWnAPGDLjzJQ1nxe+XjrKurWOvTpxaG7kZxDVPKnsm7h1FQI3K1TtT5+wRdotyw5eblcViLQKGJKMkHtH/uhvB0hHnqNc1xX59yWrHLofu+29EFsW7gJDy6gj1KMbvkbht9odic= Received: by 10.67.19.9 with SMTP id w9mr796158ugi.86.1200405184831; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.144? ( [81.79.219.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i40sm666575ugf.4.2008.01.15.05.53.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:53:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <478CBABB.9010108@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:52:59 +0000 From: George Prowse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Long CC: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Re: A proposal to get out of this mess References: <42ebd5dc0801141711m30bc22bv2721d86d81ae4990@mail.gmail.com> <478C7085.3070406@gmail.com> <478C8A86.6000206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c57bf0f7-9471-45b0-9b9a-54f104f235f6 X-Archives-Hash: 7bbf65abc4c5498e64abfbb0921fa35f Steve Long wrote: > Well technically the Foundation used to be legal title-holder to all Gentoo > assets. He's talking about the Trustees exerting control over the > developers, which is something it was explicitly set up not to do; the > Council are the ultimate authority for all developers. So in a sense he's > trying to take control over the whole thing (even though it would be a new > legally disjoint entity) in one swoop. Some people will applaud that, > others not. *shrug* Well correct me if I am wrong but if the foundation is no more then wouldn't/hasn't everything revert(ed) back to him anyway? > > The SFC thing is far more like the old Foundation tbh. Only they have > professional admins, accountants and lawyers. ;) > >> At the very least I would only consider his offer when I had some sort >> of information on the offer. Negotiations are whats needed, not an >> instant accept/decline > > Yeah, only he explicitly rules out any negotiation and set a very tight > deadline to accept or refuse. I pleaded with him to change only the terms > (no discussion/deadline and all his appointees) believe it or not. meh. > "Railroading" is the only term that seems apt to me. > That is just a negotiation manoeuvre, forcing Gentoo to act -- gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list