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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lbLt5HSev2WGyykPTj9MZbIMzd1Wb5Fz0" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ufGIXf++RGN63GOmQ2XJO85Oa7Kxicqv8YhWpGXjWf+WtJ44h2Q wo6XmUz17Fd/vhbn59fiUJ8udJHaX2ASaOl78bKIqIeTvabHU0w5WUkOESSvEiiUjF6452k Ku6U3txODuR70ug1JxxMSrVEvYhNb6CqrRSPOWX3KYU198UQ+6qUf45MmoqN+uNjZin1zfu mZz/pv1PXKxVHWL3teqyA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:jBp5T1EoMvs=:NPuACNdrSNBVWlonbdFFun jy1Zq+WvKnUuQi4BEG263TlmACaa0nB9IL0rE8KxpW6bVHlwcZxu52MXFcDfyTh4tKJ1v9cVN e5xycCBKCazFfAyrbufisT0wUFZw8/dwyu/murLObyZVFpPUj0Xzob8OW03Dmbh9DqyyYUKzq /EhtGcrG2gV0PuRf/jMXIqxVhqTEMA76Y4VA8hSiFZUEDd/P5qzNo6FMQ6YA2KxN6+NIbaP3c Sd3yCf2Tk4h7vPWLXOp5O6/78O0oev+HKR33VUZDImm+Gnk2Zqpc3V26PqsCv69Fl+WFZR6M2 Ihi802yYgNj5VyuBypLvJEGaF/Ud4HcWGjw+Fmu7jJYuSkWEB47QHFlmHp4oFHr2unmdYx0ng xhAqrIj4O8KM+yNtxyBEJLtpEwTJ0cOvexuGUMhbk9KwGUrfwFvkhlTTv0ThyJaVXLSTo4MmX HlO06oOZOlM4tJzD/Y7U4GlzfmtFjnU594tjEZw9WmWpyE41jw6jyKa9Jhuki/auY64gHw304 Zz4LWOKR7VID3PX4w6aLTy5KACehIXbehCw6QIzc9yVbzRjb+O5RMJ3Lur6oPv/Z8wrLte1Ux RjuUPgeMIYlJpMQKAiV802CP7sD3EnCOA4RwsGmelb4XQ5m+exVQGaZgTudMYSptIFkgVXHq/ W8EJTdq76wzSE4Xq8MaWb5/56gJ7rWh5mMM96IkxGiRImviPKKaiWDkMQyCFcHwObNTGi11Xd Z2HohA1fmvd0c8/9CSmcgn7s17HbLsz5zvD+yQ== X-Archives-Salt: 7f1805ad-d4f9-4556-9488-0e70a076d93b X-Archives-Hash: c56aceddf2ac3f5be661709244460075 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lbLt5HSev2WGyykPTj9MZbIMzd1Wb5Fz0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="QxWsXqdNZiCdKUufm9fj7jP3T9NKGLSwo"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael Everitt To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <465cf0eb-3323-d71f-e6a7-862f0940f54b@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 References: <20190401032055.GA9497@linux1.home> <4bbfc34f-335f-5521-310a-b66ffd0d9a9a@gentoo.org> <5e30d658-80c8-b608-1505-dc08db3625bf@gentoo.org> <20190403174315.32615d3b9574571e3ed4a399@gentoo.org> <80ed2e482e96c96555bf4fd9331731c4c9ad0d7f.camel@gentoo.org> <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: --QxWsXqdNZiCdKUufm9fj7jP3T9NKGLSwo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB On 09/04/19 22:53, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 4/9/19 11:50 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 5:46 PM Kristian Fiskerstrand = wrote: >>> If you are to provide anything related to this, I'd suggest also >>> providing (i) a template copyright assignment document that assigns t= he >>> copyright of any work to the foundation (will only be valid in countr= ies >>> where this is allowed, including US), and (ii) a policy document when= >>> the real name can be disclosed when needed (e.g in a court case >>> disputing the copyright). >>> >> I think that this is starting to go off on a tangent, but a lot has >> already been done on that front using the FSFe FLA as a starting >> point. I wouldn't suggest that somebody just create something from >> scratch. (And for those who are worried, the general thinking to date= >> is that it would be 100% voluntary.) >> >> That said, I really don't see how assignment helps here. I suggest >> taking any discussion around that to a separate thread unless there is= >> a clear tie-in, and I don't think this is a direction Council is >> likely to go in anyway. >> > if the foundation approves pseudonym actors, an assignment from said > person could have legal bearing but the identify wouldn't necessarily > need to be immediately disclosed except an additional tag that the > person has signed an assignment document. of course that presumes that > the rationale for pseudonym isn't copyright avoidance to begin with. > Can I take the opportunity to point out, that if legalities are involved,= I am aware of several people who have taken the necessary procedures (and i= n some cases, paid for the 'privilege') in order to use their chosen pseudonym as a legal form of identity. In this case (IANAL), were the courts to be instructed, I'm sure there would be valid justification for = an appropriate disclosure of required identity documentation to whatever par= ty it was deemed necessary. Not all cases are simply ones where a person does not wish to use their full given name, there are perfectly decent arguments for using a pseudon= ym when there could be mild or severe ramifications if their true identity w= as in the public domain. I'm thinking as obvious examples of those involved = in security/penetration work, where it may be required, and not simply desirable to keep ones primary identity confidential. Are we really so draconian to eliminate these (often very well-skilled individuals) for making a specialist contribution to Gentoo Linux?! --QxWsXqdNZiCdKUufm9fj7jP3T9NKGLSwo-- --lbLt5HSev2WGyykPTj9MZbIMzd1Wb5Fz0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJcrRceAAoJEGPnxnn01DHdr2AP/18SvRia8uWYtkfxpZkWTVe/ AxxulSTIAwTJyxehRQ6/L5vVOtcH3tbHyZigi75SYnhYdD5zRp+fXpytILp/DDLq leKdsWX2zuWxIxuOR08TdH6NcQnbXNtQ1rFk8xun7tk3RpWUx71Xs9wahoQSPQUr kb+IuQoQc/MOPvTd4njbWImEFkEewzPP0/JS7oumy/vfaWNSJMJD3aDY2/tJjhmy wBvrkAnjGJOPjHypis915o49cm8kqcFKRAKaN70568rm9+cHDdF26mbl/dNdrsry YHQrjHHKKg2n3xOmVEKCKvyqs8WSzyDuwFzvKztMlxqcAkiwuYugONptCM3RKOE6 2b51Lb6NY2JEIf4fDK9OS3vb1hfbfcHd/UBVbL/thOFK2YqBASYmFWdKMOPiZsS6 j/u9m1ubIaWO2sVrN/A4oqBZ+nAc0gb7smDQ2U1yReBvfPR91iwN2rkmN4cyMmo9 SEbPuFRrE34Ia6TabJ3R1Q+YoV45RA9gfdf3XjlxoNkWdmuUU76YC162LWBmf9iK MWQArBnYub8sWODNEzDlUt7Ltao8Xou4hluNa2mDK0djphfU5wLaivmdmhlq6fU5 ttWdSz8hko5dCti8cz4AxOvLOAVK1+FxwP1r1DstskRom+YvzmnmQdlQIxdBf3pw s2DR5VJsNkcIK12UDv7U =fxwm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lbLt5HSev2WGyykPTj9MZbIMzd1Wb5Fz0--