From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2576A13832E for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8319021C092; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E871321C04E for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.100.0.6] (host-37-191-220-247.lynet.no [37.191.220.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: k_f) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEFBE340691 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14 References: <2e11e445-c25b-b7f2-def1-99aed92308b6@gentoo.org> <20160804162443.GA7048@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <971d2394-58dc-74e9-416c-90b3f9aaacb5@gentoo.org> <20160805184245.GA12055@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Message-ID: <45f646d7-9b7a-4fae-9180-0519d3fbb61f@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 20:45:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160805184245.GA12055@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="00kkbfcTKoXwwCOM6vK7FtJvwlFVe2JEv" X-Archives-Salt: 6a053ded-250e-4518-a5df-ce41304370ec X-Archives-Hash: 394044e22653080a11272b50fc1cf767 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --00kkbfcTKoXwwCOM6vK7FtJvwlFVe2JEv Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="obFrM9AGl6hMMAwasDwd2OPnIxET8bWWK" From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Reply-To: k_f@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <45f646d7-9b7a-4fae-9180-0519d3fbb61f@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14 References: <2e11e445-c25b-b7f2-def1-99aed92308b6@gentoo.org> <20160804162443.GA7048@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <971d2394-58dc-74e9-416c-90b3f9aaacb5@gentoo.org> <20160805184245.GA12055@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> In-Reply-To: <20160805184245.GA12055@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> --obFrM9AGl6hMMAwasDwd2OPnIxET8bWWK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/05/2016 08:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> > > Ultimately, I think we need some form of automated stabilization,= e.g. >>> > > if a package version sits in ~ for 30 days and there are no block= ers at >>> > > that point, the new version should go automatically to stable on = all >>> > > architectures where there is a previous stable version. >> >=20 >> > I LOUDLY disagree. The stable tree should not be compromised by such= >> > automation, it is already bad enough without proper use-testing in s= ome >> > cases. Stable isn't only about building properly. > and that's why we don't commit straight to stable. people are supposed > to be testing those ~arch versions for a while before they go stable. > That testing should cover the use cases you are talking about and work > out the bugs. Once that's done, we should be able to move the package t= o > stable. It was recently a discussion in #-dev that could help on this, the automation can't be only build-testing, but if writing usage-tests (protocol, interface access testing etc for servers etc) automation would indeed be helpful. --=20 Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP certificate reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 --obFrM9AGl6hMMAwasDwd2OPnIxET8bWWK-- --00kkbfcTKoXwwCOM6vK7FtJvwlFVe2JEv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJXpN6yAAoJECULev7WN52FWUMH/14f5n86taQDyXbujRjPdaHz G5LJYclODfhH7/Q78ugR4bV2IA0IDoI1ieWJ79e1Fe2ZlMQJ6S0stlx1eYMA2F0T XT8Onb2hkOmCpoEakJlS60El5PGZA+U8C0S0lAQuflYRuFl4wRHFRLiCU3jp0B4l tU3BlNseW2HmqHUQPDrxpIhvGGzOJBM0XRrORarsNKEj8RemY+hAg7mCyqWITT3V /lDQaHzLkFKqgjrHU6s3V2lZyyHakvD3DnEXBhrMjASBma5UoW+83hYsJSl2SaNx WAwSsQy07FEwkcxDEEB8AHt4Lm4UFSMEWqCE09O3+rwPmTpUOfUj5f1MzZYYyhw= =roki -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --00kkbfcTKoXwwCOM6vK7FtJvwlFVe2JEv--