From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B188138827 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA4F221C04B; Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 453E221C01B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.192.113] (public-gprs359828.centertel.pl [37.47.36.213]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED12C3405CF; Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:49:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <22031.41606.382737.317725@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <1904237.nU16iSOlTl@kailua> <20150930201537.1d79253a.mgorny@gentoo.org> <201509302221.28178.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <2199512.rKAaYiLksn@kailua> <20151002202214.126bde87.mgorny@gentoo.org> <22031.41606.382737.317725@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 12:49:28 +0200 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org,Ulrich Mueller CC: "Andreas K. Huettel" ,Gentoo Council Message-ID: <44A3F8DC-FFD5-4B8D-A030-67DA87E88113@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: f2105797-2177-41e3-ab4e-50b2d09aa9d4 X-Archives-Hash: 0d384f87e5e1242ff8aad9d2d2ebdea0 Dnia 3 października 2015 11:40:22 CEST, Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): >>>>>> On Fri, 2 Oct 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> Am Wednesday 30 September 2015, 22:21:27 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: >>> > a) Remove the word "herd" from docs and specifications. >>> > >>> > b) Package is "in herd" -> package is "maintained by project" >>> > >>> > c) In metadata.xml, replace x -> y >>> > This needs (as Ulrich has already pointed out) a short-name y for >>> > each project, to be defined on its wiki page. E.g., "Gentoo KDE >>> > project" has shortname kde. > >> What's the gain? Does it justify breaking every tool dealing with >> metadata.xml out there? > >At some point, backwards compatibility becomes a burden. If we are >going to abandon herds then it is only consequent to retire the >corresponding metadata tag. And yes, some tools will have to be >adjusted. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. And why are we going to do that? I feel like you hijacked my agenda item with your own problem. > >> Are you going to fix package managers, gentoolkit, gentoopm, >> packages.gentoo.org (in both versions), willikins, Funtoo >> scripts...? Or is this going to be another smart move which forces >> others to do extra work just because someone didn't like the name? > >Is there anything in this list that requires more than a trivial fix? Well, looking at where this is heading, yes. Most likely most of them will be required to implement some kind of MediaWiki RPC... > >Ulrich -- Best regards, Michał Górny