From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED25B138334 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 901EBE07D0; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53A02E07B3 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7769E340F0F; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 06:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <43ec2767ac53f9ca0fbac81196d301fc2de7231d.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [PATCH] glep-0048: Provide clear rules for disciplinary actions From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: qa Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 08:25:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4241D803-3263-4841-A2EC-8C4EDCB0875D@gentoo.org> References: <20190412144043.5010-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <22bf7f73eadd0504bc55df189778bde21d076042.camel@gentoo.org> <4241D803-3263-4841-A2EC-8C4EDCB0875D@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Ct+fSxHXd6F6wHEaIPIu" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: ea211e3b-1e1f-4bbf-9dc8-e681de429505 X-Archives-Hash: 674985aa0e05653db29f6d9dbccb86e8 --=-Ct+fSxHXd6F6wHEaIPIu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 12:07 +0900, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: > > The point is, that if a developer keeps breaking stuff and doesn't > > listen to reminders to be more careful, there is a point when QA should > > be able to issue a ban to make the developer realize he can't go on > > like > > this. >=20 > I think such problems have to be dealt by using continuous integration ch= ecks on commits, not by banning people around. And how does that help, if the developer doesn't fix the breakage introduced? Effectively he's blocking things for everyone else until somebody does the work needed to fix his action. Also, you can't detect everything via CI. Some things just require thinking. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-Ct+fSxHXd6F6wHEaIPIu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAlyxgOZfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQogFhAAoVMHcotxSJCYLegO/JK8HCCc7jv4q6Q8kPkF9xPBXjlofPRW8psl0ISv ufFjH2uUF2j61xAuyf/2nQS+2KlG6SBwopoAmM30Bb6nsbo7OXF2ymZSkLsz+/Hc imjnV0KMjlVct9OZItA3PMGdHpjh+KuBDJcU2jGAI0pvn2HXlbrXvNpKPFbOb/zf MtyHtl1xkgyugmsKAezKNTlpoxv2RTyuBFXlir8jQwQtaMBPJOq/JbQaZrQVnhZc dBcVzTkab+pwAc/jWmGPMejhrp5S2SzfwaXhPzHQPUN5HJze1bjjO8IJgIof7B9N pazVD0CiNihetnVI4yVO44r+DkorQ6+YY6zZppt2eGS5VJUA6PUkWs+ACczJ7kRK SQmedvbZ26BTTgqN6PpFyBiuMl1Lj+MREcYiDxSkvW7t9jdikr2rDV+zxzvTyQFQ PWC2WmQ5GtwjvS+4kc1E7Nh01z56oDhg0N0C6+VTgbcNx/HLDaGkOwMohAbk0gkW ggQ6Taso/vPvq67T72vHn1dMzvGqM1qt8mu6tW+8J6qw5YmmfKJD6sKX97K/ExvS 2swak5k9Dlehcx/Z1FYayUdYklnbJ1QY1ntB2JCrnCZwcZkY+tFoUyPqxEkkF3dP QGfc/MDS4tpPWBinG8EdxoBApV5KtlXMpB1GkQh40qLDIMDgMko= =rJW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Ct+fSxHXd6F6wHEaIPIu--