From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-project+bounces-222-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1JElTV-0000Zh-FZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:05:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A3EEE02FD; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A663E02FD for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c49so755021wra.1 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:05:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+4UDnbacpRg+3K6v3pjulS3IIKWfbCSbQdBht3cOgZM=; b=LgTFXXFFOhKK9jfFrPj9VHjdFJpYxLaTpfOKomVdHA2M2rdR5BUvE6MT5HwLCZy4AoktgkGnLINJQGmfP6eridw0ovx8HEZHQ2D/OeiVia9/9MrYXmAgPkmbrGtrxwcFvNLkKZa25dCtuSDTEw0BfYYSUNXpcaYEdGK75vUb2lE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E/HCehO98KvbQEg/GaH8+2WrpGH7MmA+ly6tP2BfvdHxk3x5C2djiNyH/PN2wgT/CXyVKleVcdG7VgdTnfj3AUyCJPo/hMWkRGMNhQJYgf0BjvwPhZX+3/rV5DNeER0AzXmpUHe5S/BCV8pkf3+NeCyBbh2cjPwuMIOY0JSOUac= Received: by 10.150.191.10 with SMTP id o10mr2952774ybf.84.1200402303888; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.124.6 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:05:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42ebd5dc0801150505y4a355a7cx59d5ae178926d8f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:05:03 +0100 From: "Dominik Riva" <slalomsk8er@gmail.com> To: "Wulf C. Krueger" <philantrop@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] A proposal to get out of this mess Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20080115125109.13145wo79hytzfis@www2.mailstation.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ebd5dc0801141711m30bc22bv2721d86d81ae4990@mail.gmail.com> <478C7044.2070402@gmail.com> <42ebd5dc0801150131rd5d6134sbbb8bfa2bdc2c9bf@mail.gmail.com> <478C8596.80005@gmail.com> <42ebd5dc0801150329g785478a5h7c95500d1de1dda6@mail.gmail.com> <20080115125109.13145wo79hytzfis@www2.mailstation.de> X-Archives-Salt: 6cc57c38-414d-4eec-a9e0-c4e37452933e X-Archives-Hash: 2e44f3266f9ae594b5b528225ade1a9f On Jan 15, 2008 12:51 PM, Wulf C. Krueger <philantrop@gentoo.org> wrote: > > And a Invitee to all devs to join the discussion in -core but I hope > > this was done long ago. > > Rest assured that the discussion has been lively there. > Thant is a very good thing to hear. > I don't get all the fuss about this, though. So the Foundation is in > trouble, so what? It's basically holding the Gentoo trademark in the > USA (in Europe, it does *not*, another legal entity does here) and it > is the copyright holder of the ebuilds. Maybe it is all about the "so what?" mentality of the core that led to this mess in the first place? I can understand that this angers the community and drobbins, as it angers me too. I am not the person to jump blindly on drobbins ultimatum bandwagon with a lot of angry users on it. But I think that some drastic actions must be taken, maybe exactly because the bandwagon with the angry mob on it. > The ebuilds keep coming, we're basically doing "business" as usual and > that should be enough, I'd say. Sure, all is fine in the land of Gentoo - problems are for people that have nothing better to do :( Regards, Dominik Riva -- gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list