From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEi8N-0001No-BE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:31:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31B00E0A52; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.249]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0CDE0A52 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 23so4379014hsn.2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:31:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wqUW+j59si5OhVzu2Te1p6HGLthJ93uIbPAm+RDElWQ=; b=Va/jCnFgpGXDDQGUV53vIvQFqJuucgGAoaZsjqAEhDhNu3wcGXEPQw0cvy4qDryK3ErZVeIc5kJoxuKUFViEAKCi6HIlui9aejiiVuC43+OMAVxp2GccDAPZQmU/y7r5HSSx4/eE4hOP3/PCijJS4oKDan3HmSrzrrf8Y8oRu1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i+hoBCovXtVaZleBuZ+oGzXGyQq/GfeURP6wbG8NnalpxUp4XEoyYp1aF2WzGE7pEohbiElkd6GouTwcFLpEZS4mUND12ZfZ5f9x7Bma4AKySmNFbY1nogfmH39zNjfGINFiFI6WTURDbgZRTDbsQSYX2wW7dlxu2iIE2FtC3Mo= Received: by 10.151.9.1 with SMTP id m1mr2878614ybi.12.1200389461109; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:31:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.124.6 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:31:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42ebd5dc0801150131rd5d6134sbbb8bfa2bdc2c9bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:31:01 +0100 From: "Dominik Riva" To: "George Prowse" Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] A proposal to get out of this mess Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <478C7044.2070402@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ebd5dc0801141711m30bc22bv2721d86d81ae4990@mail.gmail.com> <478C7044.2070402@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 7f51e6fd-a570-4986-a974-017ad2c81a58 X-Archives-Hash: 825cc21be4ba0a2240626f712f2a1f22 On Jan 15, 2008 9:35 AM, George Prowse wrote: > I like the idea of a discussion of this kind and I applaud you for > trying to start a discussion but you are unlikely to start any form of > discussion here because it is not the forum for it. > > Also, Gentoo developers are notoriously quiet when it comes to subjects > like this which unfortunately leads to rumours which are no good for anyone. > > I can understand why 90% of users would like drobbins back but I would > be willing to say that 0% of the long-term core developers want him back > and Gentoo has a long history of ignoring it's user base and saying "we > give our time for free so we're going to develop how we want." > > If you really want to see what core /developers/ think or thought about > Gentoo's internal problems then I suggest you read Spider's and > plasmaroo's resignation emails, they document some problems pretty well. > > At the end of the day you're not likely to change anything though. > > George > I am posting here on NeddySeagoon advice as I had a private conversation about this stuff with him. If you have a better idea for a forum to post this in, I am all ears. Regards, Dominik Riva -- gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list