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Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council nominee 2018/19 questions To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, Matthew Thode References: <1529997071.2250.6.camel@gentoo.org> <1529997169.2250.7.camel@gentoo.org> <20180626165415.5uq47pqorfo25cau@gentoo.org> From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=k_f@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEdj//4BEAC3zjKRryW1mLec38x0w9ByG50h6KJddkZe3UNdGhAa3S5E4NAi/fUoe3gD LUDDmpHZNqtbMgrobwUNjLrp+PDZNdMJFAnbWXvmsMwuax0SWJzy4alem34tvir3a2PpnVr9 ylyAyxPChMM0ANelT/fiYIEysjAbHXjri89qdT+yA16CMljoun7vIOmq7ohKdNd1Dci6qoyj 0NllvR2AiBI+ZJnoF4hkRKO1PNUJROzn/ku88idaNkWyq7rREI+WkhS+K6xg1R/d6mTp+bHP tmwGlN4U1Lgx9qeitYzirkQeA8EGK/EEPPZG85WvXSrTftoPvQswOtW7I+jkTdd30GHXf6JH Rq4oR0mT65mqckycPjXNw6RM0fxyx06/kbVG8x3tzc3roJF+hR+h5QWIWsQOc3ZAhbJPWnfP D/kEN20yvb6EXWha+70QJbrBsnN0M8MLF7x+ZWTKESOVpshUBG67iq/FWCpv3st2VTq4M0Ep b/ORIKlfEgSsGv6waooF0ik41ey3k6PIcuHTq/sCoFoC6EH75wqsbmLkVSyqTKm3MSjlN26d ei425iCXJSyH0L1WmeS0i0rzcF5BCu9V280DmNFHWkr4iHiyrVcNyccocMTeh6/ZG7XSI0wc TONVNnKtofVHkzwHMdDlDx4lFRG+V0ftimR5THlxtG8AzQKY9QARAQABzUJLcmlzdGlhbiBG aXNrZXJzdHJhbmQgPGtyaXN0aWFuLmZpc2tlcnN0cmFuZEBzdW1wdHVvdXNjYXBpdGFsLmNv bT7CwX8EEwEIACkCGwMCHgECF4ACGQEFCwkIBwMEFQoJCAUWAgMBAAUCWiWhXAUJFMX2sgAK CRALf4tg4+364/YeEACSDL8stCAArMoqgXlTAdAKQFedJHyoS2QFVzuLx+k7CCGt0jVrNh3d HRQ92pF2QJScWKw76/LHvh6lMBPJwBEXRIvQNDNUb/zyBx96FipC+Dkd8Fxu3s4W+6YCqUBa lmC5XKB6uF/W5wanvpAn1K8bvUb3sq86RYTD0qZui4LMhvm8A0A1Na4+ZeGyfBFhcH5Oh+nh wkZjL7mbMTe25QCeCs4wQpYowia70EZLcQF4MboF9GzH5PIb0ipG5Jtfk9QfSlT+bnkRL1KR DR6rHo7iAYcMt4oJVU1qo1akSBe0MsMI37OdWDtNvUy2Svd2BCLZl49KZnErleC3R/axrtkL 2w1f0P4FoiuPq7mPeiUBhLaZLlc2fz490cEwjsgsY6GuiCWlbyjBMtp0OKM4VBqt5tdxBo/R X5Y6kNOGWpDHx8D+Dl8ToTDJuH2I0k2wfcUibYzWfwXpPpwZ5iXidwLYXbBQ2qqlyB7MP3Po z3zl+UulJyxIYGjg2sO4FmmRs0tThceaNIiDtP5uPLu77oCkAAsWuFSfa6Iwq9+PIQTqTFhH nJ1v/xrdqKWSYB6tm9Tkb0KkUKxFhc7QVyphvh473UEAQ78bQFWrGHqiejQtiiR3MOubwUyt YkNi+ef068rs27SPfRmBAvRw2EMZWhWyX/P2xM4PPp24reOn4ZuAAM7ATQRVZfyNAQgAvppy gWUI21WpA8IZZC+HXywKOqAIXgEQG8m62kVE048A8gjwk8vcmDKU0vlD6OGZ0capeWzWK5kN Gi8kl4ejvgULXKQCAV8ycEUWXmBSmzabhGruMY96Hy1OILc9tb3Wpg3wggW+PZjc5IuLIa1k 9AiDg6SQExDhC27x1EUKZkxkIG+EThSKHbCFB3t4tbwlI8Na4LUfjOxCILA2KVl7CXD/eUNr apJeSGJOtYEhgNFhuHoSG7Po9k6cy2eRrviq9X9cEW10Y3ocCypKvenuUjrN4bUd0IUsODLy cZ3aL+zEmIdhZsG7dQeFmFeJKK+XDgLIMNgr+EP9+89U/COZ5QARAQABwsFlBBgBCAAPAhsM BQJXwxA2BQkE4salAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjuDIP/2qDloXeGXfMLASc85cp09JLKrbISlTQZkvH WCQREQWzv9LJ4nUcELIhPTc18ntLhU+xJXLP+9d09cOlIiWWjRXXVCZ8IkcSkUplwCQz0Z2h XpmIOm/kycIDgo+qDCRrQhOCX3IhXGwslT7hWjUf/BlKN9f89Uy7VjBFLACOyP3hBZ1uLswN PcSfks/BzTtGTRZ/TEQxgmw0K2BwyJAwnMFqj8kQwc39P6euHln+33alzmUHDsp5rKUsMl58 x18jrV9KLokU/mDHZXoFeLY61dm9Nr46g+T9YYQagvGYfxIAyR9XcHeK1VxxCieSfC/jLKIT A9pu4Hgevl7DGm5/NHzUtqpwRwcbCqvj95Rgfe6lBwuD5g3olAXpZIQKbx73pWdoH0rwXGrQ Bs1weeFbIyVvoCozWoAoU7wVQSr8rHHZeq70b3Zp9DFdkXiSMu3LhU8Byl/spT3rQyLzCBoW DKDrKkifp+HV4mHoypxwD90CcEjeVObpCmhIEaxIDGKl2QaTm+RTwmVWCqr4YFv7QHRMmFVu STZpPmonZzK6VQJByeJMTDlbL0OpczJ8oVHp6txESKj/17xTs8JU1e/SSsdcYjFuLpzHvb97 0F5NQwMZeVuYRvJlCxL7z4Bpj7oPweATfwP43b+JWAser874u7AlBfonXTxe47pbYMioHPnb wsFlBBgBCAAPAhsMBQJaJaF0BQkGw/ojAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjgbYQAIYDkXvyczRVnEZloYQb HsqjGwekWXTkTk74yYF5U+GoGGzbdFAmF2FhhWxlwIoPLtWoUXmdBknyqtAHCIlYrqPi0fsY 6SdIU3qdDDESjR9gixoPKOP5pFRC3KsPn0MNUXElbkdHvn0YSjuj0GdBi8YUa1XGRNW/O8PH 4HP900OipflQhuEC3yI5AYiq+Grd80RzJg8F108bn8YmoHapV5zZGfzp5L3pHCNOGsBlpTDr QA3XvlKti3AujaF88Nq3tj5kTsj73I30WOctGH3d9QWdySuK5RekAYvMSHU7M9oHtwV9dfVd RFbbuP4fhf+yF56Syu0k7jGe8e0d1xshwOMIXu8/3z4hYOpPfAvkl7n3QNHeqtT1KwRYqCCw KeK8pKZZlsBJ3D6XPuEZyTc/JIiZr8yALslTYubCCNyYQj7fByxM7neVPPaciNhbkGHImwfJ GPBSEuP/UXciroUcrvwwGfY76+WvezaU+O3SLcrT9i+emo9uA14Syb51RWz8h/x55Yu2UpON hArhearvW+0kJBx/YzG0Us7TLMNAiiQYlGibMmaBgRWW33vMXWT9H3FIN8L1NI/Qvy3/N0zD HawUOUvVMNtAzbWexFtxXQ7zyxLUBHHhFdezpWyXmm71qEaOMdDLnTwLqv3ENHUfZzmCc2Kt ZjTX0qrgBQD08nPn Message-ID: <41bf3630-d61c-0198-1e9e-182493122a3f@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:00:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180626165415.5uq47pqorfo25cau@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k3qGk2JVseNtrlAxGj5oZS2WjBHNoXFxl" X-Archives-Salt: 02013c6d-18ae-4028-ad26-88da028018a0 X-Archives-Hash: dc0ae09fd829f75e496a8534acd53d88 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --k3qGk2JVseNtrlAxGj5oZS2WjBHNoXFxl Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="cby7LeTT7WlWkqPFlEqZZGPU7zfuumCp9"; protected-headers="v1" From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Reply-To: k_f@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, Matthew Thode Message-ID: <41bf3630-d61c-0198-1e9e-182493122a3f@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council nominee 2018/19 questions References: <1529997071.2250.6.camel@gentoo.org> <1529997169.2250.7.camel@gentoo.org> <20180626165415.5uq47pqorfo25cau@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20180626165415.5uq47pqorfo25cau@gentoo.org> --cby7LeTT7WlWkqPFlEqZZGPU7zfuumCp9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/26/2018 06:54 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 18-06-26 18:27:14, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> On 06/26/2018 09:12 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >>> W dniu wto, 26.06.2018 o godzinie 09=E2=88=B611=E2=80=89+0200, u=C5=BC= ytkownik Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny >>> napisa=C5=82: >>>> To improve readability of the thread, I'll ask my question in reply = to >>>> myself ;-). >>>> >>> >>> And I'd like to ask the inevitable question: what do you think should= be >>> the roles of Gentoo Council and Trustees appropriately? >>> >> >> The Trustees should make sure the bills are paid and affairs are in >> order so that the light are on for the distribution, of which the >> Council handles. >> >=20 > What about ensuring that the following situation does not happen. >=20 > Lawsuit is filed against the foundation because of inaction or > inappropriate action by members of the distro. Who is responsible for > remediating that situation? It involves both the foundation and the > 'distro'. Further, who is responsible for ensuring the situation does > not occur in the first place? >=20 I don't see where inaction can be relevant for distro per se, that is mainly an issue for trustees that have a fiduciary duty to the stakeholders. There are also very few cases where "inappropriate action" by a distro developer has any legal ramification for the foundation, as there is no employment contract to constitute HR relevant matters, but that is why there is ComRel. 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