From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51CC6139694 for ; Sun, 7 May 2017 15:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56542E0D39; Sun, 7 May 2017 15:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01d.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01d.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.7]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBB4E0D24 for ; Sun, 7 May 2017 15:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.3.120.142] (helo=NeddySeagoon_Static) by smarthost01d.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1d7OQ1-000Dav-1S for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 07 May 2017 15:48:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 16:47:52 +0100 From: Roy Bamford Subject: Re: arches.desc & GLEP 72 (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Items for Council Agenda, May 14) To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <2845173.ZUnlo4BlrU@pinacolada> (from dilfridge@gentoo.org on Sat May 6 15:34:49 2017) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.5.3 Message-Id: <3r5hnpPUwesOjf5lHKjW16@YnqdrmA5uFdPbp0qmUBqU> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-IjqdQIUnD7A9QavMb0Zp" X-Originating-smarthost01d-IP: [62.3.120.142] Feedback-ID: 62.3.120.142 X-Archives-Salt: ac5eb0b6-4e2d-4f1a-9b1d-a7dd19ccde34 X-Archives-Hash: 030ce545b8c54e0cb1fafc81f47f9742 --=-IjqdQIUnD7A9QavMb0Zp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017.05.06 15:34, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 29. April 2017, 19:00:34 CEST schrieb Anthony G. Basile: > > Hi everyone, > >=20 > > The Gentoo Council will be meeting in two weeks. If anyone has any > > issues we need to discuss, please let me know and I'll put it on the > > agenda. Thanks. >=20 > I've converted the arches.desc proposal into a GLEP, taking (some of) > the=20 > mailing list comments into account. >=20 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GLEP:72 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Dilfridge/GLEP:72 >=20 > (the texts are identical at the moment, but if there are additional > comments I=20 > can more easily adapt the version in my user space). >=20 > I would like the council to talk about it and potentially give it a > go-ahead.=20 >=20 > An implementation is still missing though. >=20 > Cheers,=20 > Andreas >=20 > --=20 > Andreas K. H=FCttel > dilfridge@gentoo.org > Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice) >=20 Andreas, First off I like the intent. I think it will be useful, especially for arm= 64 which interests me. I don't like the reuse of terms like stable, testing, and so on but I'm not first to point that out. It appears that the purpose of arches.desc is to ease the pain of transitions between ARCH, ~ARCH and even wilder states. Names describing these transitions may things clearer to human=20 readers. I can see downsides to that too because trasitions will be in both=20 directions. e.g. arm64 is heading toward stable from the unknown,=20 and x86 will soon be going in the other direction. =20 A few nits. =20 Initial value in the gentoo repository, On introduction, the setting will be "stable" for all stable architectures,= "testing" for all architectures where "inofficial" "inofficial" -> "unofficial" Meaning of the values for repoman ...=20 This is the current behaviour and shall be the default if nothing is specif= ied for an architecture. This is the current behaviour and shall be the default if nothing is specif= ied in arches.desc for an architecture. --=20 Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods = --=-IjqdQIUnD7A9QavMb0Zp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8iqN0lnEsghF0U/tVl/TNarc5wkFAlkPQagACgkQVl/TNarc 5wkLsw/9FzpVVw2o5fFwNmKqr35Hr/cRhdoL0KhHWIbMPPLWFkAd6xY18eHp3Nec 2auInXCRH1jvMVGhylbMIAbUaesFfXCypQkSZq5ZjZVUyCO7TaxQqniVucYJHC4K 3R3PRr/TZ8NJsfENHXKLrslFf0QbNadTuOorVmvcVgFtUTZ4n/6Z0cEv8vcfGZwC ZwI1vYraVf8tSoVoOpDmykZrXu61KnapmcRxLOHmdTrCLOYTK9Q2d657bRISJsqw qqAyE01/7nO+DyODz1zY3D2Nm6tbiPYGTDsROZtJJ5v0W7m8MZT7gKWKsfk+5Yca p6OOzm97G9xEgOsWxulu2DxsPSVkILML8B26wd1RBGiicb1+zJ9/OSo+hE+T1aYi VIMIXOx7yfhgDIrpTEpnadJU6r8f1aHDvccHBLImrsEksasXGuUV7RXl3iN5xzQ3 OEnXiAKiQ7LYH+no0kqPtk954cEdRhuD3ZVNMbp8SAWYtbDXSCx2lS+9C0k5ey/E xGU2TKRW6acqTP504jcqWp30MK0a1s9wfIkQwKGSQgg7Orzm36/hfmRrwe37+RWX Ty9TFuQ9+Y4KJsZ1BQ1fofGvbRYCrrZOBe2TAYB8G12PoWESguvEW4gY9fAV//7G lvuYDZmqDeyGDibvbBhb1yV3dL7/4TtYQ/SZAH8jPc+3BwHMqQ0= =URYl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-IjqdQIUnD7A9QavMb0Zp--