From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BED0413933E for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 06:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB31CE0970; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 06:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E575E0970; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 06:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <394c92e416bccb6fd4b910b239e0b81ff3d31c08.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-nfp] 2021 Trustees election From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Gentoo Elections Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 08:18:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87d313a2-790d-254b-bbc9-db5a0c58f642@gentoo.org> References: <0b4c895018c93be369b1d534fe393f2f5b6952ea.camel@gentoo.org> <87d313a2-790d-254b-bbc9-db5a0c58f642@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.40.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: fc3c7e2c-2fe9-4357-8a76-8aec22090148 X-Archives-Hash: 28c8711bb3dd811d3ea0316dc4a34ad9 On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 07:32 +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote: > On 7.7.2021 0.57, Matt Turner wrote: > > > > As far as I can tell, you're the only one who has done anything > > concrete towards merging the Gentoo Foundation into an umbrella > > organization :( > > > > Out of curiosity, with an umbrella organization could there be any fear > for a similar takeover that happened with Freenode? > There will always be fear. Technically, we will sign some kind of agreement with safeguards against that but I'm not convinced we'd be able to legally pursue them (unless some fancy 'open source' lawyer volunteers to help us). That said, it's no different with Gentoo Foundation that isn't legally obliged to care about Gentoo at all (and have historically refused to fix that). I'm not accusing anyone, just saying that technically it is possible for GF to take full control over Gentoo assets. Of course, there's a good chance that they 'know better', especially that the Freenode incident proved that asset ownership is no match for community. -- Best regards, Michał Górny