From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41A7D138334 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 16:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2499FE09DB; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 16:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo6-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5305::11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2728E09DA for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 16:30:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1555173028; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=akhuettel.de; h=References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=UkWQ2KZGCpfg6mMjOqofZnP9642mqkyKM6yH6XOtykc=; b=ANIW1opTqgSTf0Dz+UhnMK3A4l8txxTmePqCy/ZxhOhNjUJiXpi0Y8CwArXkF4DZcM +L31pQIuxqCAjQtoVcXLZywyiKNDkNNCJlFXPAPdawaPcIZB6SCZyIAlu9GJzjhnqRRO WPNw1h8KCREx05yJ0yz60er1UfuKqXxiiPrhwbt+iZ23Fxw6c2Nft1ezns926HGG4iYk W08+Ka6bBoHkLqEPmp5in2UWQ1j788jLkgaI8adgzwdL5zI6TnVuclmxuU+efTJPe0DV a3Qneyydvh0SnNNnGfA1hqYuH2R0wk+Up1O7VDLmD7wAwrAnW9IiMz6DNBKcjSB40QQ5 iXAg== X-RZG-AUTH: ":IW0NeWCpcPchHrcnS4ebzBgQnKHTmkWA4CWORNSv8N53ayXN3oevcYUP0nxgbxgs" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from porto.localnet by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.18 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id n04149v3DGUNXD3 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:30:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= , qa Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [PATCH] glep-0048: Provide clear rules for disciplinary actions Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:30:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3945835.j7rpps4n5c@porto> Organization: Gentoo Linux In-Reply-To: <22bf7f73eadd0504bc55df189778bde21d076042.camel@gentoo.org> References: <20190412144043.5010-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <22bf7f73eadd0504bc55df189778bde21d076042.camel@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart55560524.jbRD6eCy1n"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 92716057-afd9-499e-b393-42127e191f1b X-Archives-Hash: aad9eae551d791553c2d1405665918c5 --nextPart55560524.jbRD6eCy1n Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Yes, I am dissatisfied. I am especially dissatisfied by the absurd > bureaucracy and unclear jurisdiction. I've seen QA claiming we don't > have authority and sending me to ComRel, and being sent back to QA > because 'it's QA business'. I would like to support that this needs clarification. We have seen too man= y=20 things bounced back and forth between qa and comrel and come to nothing in = the=20 past.=20 * person X commits crap (as per qa guideline) * someone Y complains (shouts at him) * person X continues to commit crap * qa leaves a marked statement * person X continues to commit crap * Y shouts more * X complains to comrel * qa asks comrel to do something * comrel is more worried about Y than about X ("X is technical issue, not our business") =2E.. please fill in your own preference for x and y =2D-=20 Andreas K. H=FCttel dilfridge@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer=20 (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) --nextPart55560524.jbRD6eCy1n Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEE2dlecvcVU8/ThuQ/jJJgxvbXoxAFAlyyDpoACgkQjJJgxvbX oxDNSA//bg6HKSOMk5cMblRW3C8xWmohgPLxlpFruMrCzO2zxfYoajgxNfJPCVbf ifysldru1ZkeTS0DdsT4FV4E/df8sWpfRsb20JYQM2BJGxV67ZEHscPDkUyPHUkd 6gAQ2mh5QXFQVFqxO/yh1xkYVXwsFbnusM2EHCamDfBCtk5v+svNveMvL5JHcCpv bS/9t0GW4H8o/Ndlo0ztBjrQ6vCQ1GpgLqSQXrt4kpyERCjvIboSTJR2+/7dZX39 7txe9OzHvo8/bEx1ieiHhZKAx/36uMCYsG4EGjQfpQMIcpafeGKz8RWXMXXr7kUd 8QhSOfOwOYnz/atMutmmYndcgIc51FRaU/XcYeAHxuMQj2v6RE1yuSNbHtNiXwcd M783/CvrOLq76I2JB7qp8SBS25z2Kua/K0Mva5d4QpJKUZAzuu3GS+8GPhRgvm58 p5nhScZlZmLx/XWnPJ+RGb1XFYf1T+0YGSqgxWUmk6mag1AfIaHj0ZTbCLNb7sGK A3an+wIfaJGVrD6m2qUVdsTlqIj+P2dB1Oq7KR3XfVVdAWNgvoIHL05xyOcvyGv/ Q7lqr7zJzBBNnxXcorHhVSQlVrltjtFtLrKRjdr1aFyg13gt7FMqXVOdmvelUOkI v28Tq6ba0fRTrhKEChKN6zR2EWnaVzgQryLrmCqqdd/owczNxUQ= =9iRZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart55560524.jbRD6eCy1n--