From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C606F1382C5 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E71D8E08C0; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7877AE08BD for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:43:26 +0000 (UTC) To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Joonas Niilola Subject: [gentoo-project] Question for 2020 council candidates: Dev recruitment status Message-ID: <32ea0394-4fec-09c3-45e0-74a2396e1403@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:43:16 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HPzr0yVc7bUtN1wZ1HTN7ceqvhWJWN0bR" X-Archives-Salt: 9bf55949-cc07-42c8-b890-21cd0115afeb X-Archives-Hash: 65580484c37cc137f0f9529f7a4fc66f This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HPzr0yVc7bUtN1wZ1HTN7ceqvhWJWN0bR Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Illlbn8SuRvf7Oei7JnokKVLudI1r4Tgg" --Illlbn8SuRvf7Oei7JnokKVLudI1r4Tgg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US This is the yearly repeating question: How do you view the current recruitment status in Gentoo? In your opinion... =C2=A0- are we getting enough new devs on board? =C2=A0- does the current recruitment system work? =C2=A0- can the current devbase handle "everything" (we have a lot of low-manned projects)? If not, how could council aid in? =C2=A0- why do we have hundreds of contributors who'll never become devs?= (is there a problem in "marketing", or is the recruitment process too hard, or something else?) =C2=A0- should council stay away from this topic, and leave every decisio= n to recruiters? (If I remember correctly, recruiters project were dropped to 1 person because they had internal issues deciding how to handle future recruitment). I'm also asking this because I have a suggestion to renew recruitment process a bit. Should I post my suggestion to -core for every dev to see, -project for everyone to see, or contact recruiters who can silently approve/disapprove/modify my suggestion, without anyone else knowing what I suggested? Below are some stats I dug up, and expect no reply. =46rom git log: =C2=A0- 2018 we had 8 new tree-access devs, =C2=A0- 2019 we had 5 new tree-access devs, =C2=A0- 2020 we've had 0, and publically 1 candidate can be found. Disclaimer: I don't wish to belittle devs without commit access, it's just harder to find their recruit dates. Looking at recent git activity, we seem to have ~90-100 active devs working regularily on ::gentoo tree. And currently ~30 somewhat inactiveish devs. ~+15 000 packages. Disclaimer: I don't have any distrust towards recruiters. I want to know our nominees thoughts on this subject. -- juippis --Illlbn8SuRvf7Oei7JnokKVLudI1r4Tgg-- --HPzr0yVc7bUtN1wZ1HTN7ceqvhWJWN0bR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEltRJ9L6XRmDQCngHc4OUK43AaWIFAl74gllfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk2 RDQ0OUY0QkU5NzQ2NjBEMDBBNzgwNzczODM5NDJCOERDMDY5NjITHGp1aXBwaXNA Z2VudG9vLm9yZwAKCRBzg5QrjcBpYqXTCACbAABc49+x6X10cFwoHH7WC6MDLlOy XZXLUNR51MQHvI/mwMnyBuDxq1LQYONfyKLSdSbS3g0Kj6pPhvHsziZbg8bjOpHK 58K8tNtXT8yb4dDSHJEB6LEq0g4/SNGNFWz5XRuNRi8bQVo09yAU19+jUFQP3/IN hMddsaHTvgglG97VDWy1U0J7pEPUJJ8Ahj/rc0J893Glc3K9tsgIo3r0uY7RXI/Y 0UOm+1i4pOjJ9JaihBDLPMz+b3NYRssANTiy1OSkNmhqzngXx/6iV8he87Jzzh3h sD+Tpsr40Bnp/4yvLt5mHwb7tKwif6QndRXLWJKINMGPrK1ro/UuMb4m =UCsi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HPzr0yVc7bUtN1wZ1HTN7ceqvhWJWN0bR--