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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 00:25:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2xbYG4Iv/FzlqTfJCeRrKv@Avy1ub3ZQth970/waO6TI> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_kZCbXr_VB=fY=4nutar50-HgTooyFR3ApebN9BkR3ovg@mail.gmail.com> (from rich0@gentoo.org on Tue Feb 13 00:13:39 2018)

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On 2018.02.13 00:13, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@iee.org>
> wrote:
> > On 12/02/18 23:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> Can you provide us with an example when such a scenario has
> happened
> >> in the past 12 years of council, or is the above purely
> hypothetical?
> >> Because in the latter case it is not an actual problem that needs
> to
> >> be solved.
> >>
> >> It is not a game of Nomic that we're playing here, but we are
> trying
> >> to run a distro. IMHO precluding council members from participating
> in
> >> projects isn't helpful. Or do we really want a council that is
> sitting
> >> in an ivory tower, completely detached from the daily distro work?
> >>
> > Uhm, what's the difference .. the council already live in their own
> land
> > separate from most of the developers, and definitely from the user
> > community at large ?
> >
> > Or at least, such is the perception .. [don't shoot the messenger
> and
> > all that]
> >
> 
> Such is your perception.  Most developers just cast their votes, and
> hence the same council members keep getting re-elected.  I doubt that
> would happen if most developers considered them aloof, especially
> since the Council has always attracted a significant number of
> election candidates.
> 
> You can't judge something like this by mailing list posts.
> 
> -- 
> Rich
> 
> 

Rich,

Most developers don't cast their votes.  
2015-16  The turnout for this election was 30.638.
2016-17  The turnout for this election was 37.190%

Thats from email I happen to have to hand.
From memory, those two data points are typical.
 
-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
elections
gentoo-ops
forum-mods

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-13  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-11 22:42 [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals William Hubbs
2018-02-11 23:20 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12  0:12   ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12  0:29     ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12  2:16       ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12  2:29         ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13  2:52           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-12  8:19 ` Fabian Groffen
2018-02-12  8:58 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-12 19:14   ` Michał Górny
2018-02-12 19:36   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-02-12 23:02     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-12 23:40       ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  0:13         ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13  0:16           ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  0:18             ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  0:25           ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2018-02-13  1:21             ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13  0:39   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-13  0:57     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-13  4:59     ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-13  5:06       ` M. J. Everitt
     [not found]       ` <f4781100-3fa2-170f-c388-d53f353bf914@gentoo.org>
2018-02-13 20:56         ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
     [not found]         ` <23171.27241.311990.19309@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
2018-02-14  0:33           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-12 15:53 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 16:10   ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-12 16:55   ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12 17:03     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 17:46       ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 17:58         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 18:34           ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 18:40             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 18:52               ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 19:05                 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 19:17                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 13:43                     ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 13:51                       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-02-13 14:41                         ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 14:49                           ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-02-13  4:58     ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-13  5:02       ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  5:51         ` Alec Warner
2018-02-13  6:36           ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-02-13 10:23           ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 13:59             ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 20:56               ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 15:21             ` Alec Warner
2018-02-14  5:15           ` Dean Stephens
     [not found]       ` <a1ec3099-11d7-a779-c9c8-a17bbe1d753e@gentoo.org>
     [not found]         ` <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-02-13 21:12           ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-14  5:16             ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-12 18:54 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-02-13  2:43 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-13  4:09   ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-13 23:21 ` Alexis Ballier
2018-02-14  5:53   ` Michał Górny
2018-02-14  6:01     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-14  6:44     ` R0b0t1
2018-02-14  7:22     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-14  7:29       ` Michał Górny
2018-02-14  6:19 ` Mike Gilbert
2018-02-15 20:15 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto

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