From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3F71139085 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9E9AE0C7A; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E6A4E0C79 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:e1cc:3::10] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e1cc:3::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: prometheanfire) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D70934112A for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> <98230e5a-36ed-283a-2d5d-a62c2901808e@gentoo.org> <745c2771-48e0-6322-3689-25bc747f0383@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Matthew Thode Message-ID: <2fb770df-d21b-b220-3be4-423cb89e7a95@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:19:24 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <745c2771-48e0-6322-3689-25bc747f0383@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vucuduTsglt7M2X7dnXQoGjl1hTFQhNmu" X-Archives-Salt: 2dfa36f1-4b7b-41b4-b0dd-604bdbb9a694 X-Archives-Hash: 8047a297d3effb991dd9df6d7af4ec67 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --vucuduTsglt7M2X7dnXQoGjl1hTFQhNmu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2F8x09C1JOfK3En3JgV74WsBUf4EM9NEV" From: Matthew Thode Reply-To: prometheanfire@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <2fb770df-d21b-b220-3be4-423cb89e7a95@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> <98230e5a-36ed-283a-2d5d-a62c2901808e@gentoo.org> <745c2771-48e0-6322-3689-25bc747f0383@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <745c2771-48e0-6322-3689-25bc747f0383@gentoo.org> --2F8x09C1JOfK3En3JgV74WsBUf4EM9NEV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/14/2017 05:08 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/15/2017 12:03 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: >> I think that any change needs to happen from both sides, which is the >> main reason I tried to reach out to the council a couple of months ago= =2E >> Antagonism from either side isn't going to help things move along but >> probably distract from actual goals (like this email probably is). >=20 > Why doesn't the manifest presented ahead of the latest > foundation/trustee election mention the pursuit of increased powers for= > trustees compared to the status quo? >=20 > As for the approach to council, it has been established that the counci= l > generally prefer as discussion to happen on the public mailing lists > before making any decisions, and the level of details was in any case > too lax to make any determinations, i.e the proposal lacks detailed > analysis and proposal for a decision to be made by council. >=20 First, I don't think this is an extension of powers, but more of a formalization of how things are, from a legal perspective. If you are asking about my personal manifest it's because it wasn't in the plan at the time. I was told to go make a proposal on the public mailing lists. I've done so and still not received feedback from the council as a body. --=20 Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) --2F8x09C1JOfK3En3JgV74WsBUf4EM9NEV-- --vucuduTsglt7M2X7dnXQoGjl1hTFQhNmu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYerH8AAoJEGSje+quGaTortsP/jsUU0v7YGn8uYzLlnp3Cmzm VRKbY3HrxkzMEIdFfiXo5JCFrEpDkfVFsgwcH3xU9kZDFq2T/+kg4+3VPSgugIvg rKDv5RKZ3YV5gysSMcgNAUlPhRNIs2kNsGmbKuT6iGQ3AB9JmIg84V9vjz2PaPgz 0jai7VB8m7RV1rTUVP147grn/9Bo5DZ48lgkidDPBEuI4Ox7FCD4A5FUu6InrPmA LputmVUNCPydmIf10XPfFwGu+l0dpMzJAy22AtseRjSxZpU1lE7waszy6aCyKtr6 ssf3U5cKn3LDJj6a/xoiHL4Hp45A84NMw67DXLmlBQcXnHvs2vTshsu0IkoQVJQ8 d7QjDLnZXJGsY4oEZdVID2bIGb8/xk+KHpVNJr1GgIUf5zk/nhdVShgBWR3vTCd+ u2bRpW4GtNjSQr+YP1QkqTfHpM26w0J9UCXWqxsxlutXze5xmVenZoOZLEFz3zUE kVSToI1Ch6iafGJQtrO5aZNgLFMF1mIU2Bwa9WprkfQ4RPCQ/YTHvLeqNJHZ/dnu 2kiLQduQUzmdbf23MM2o09XJ/Y1H+DJkuaKuKjxKp8Hw8oRxoPunaIGZ0GHtnXUL 8LxUwgFflctwcsg83o/kYrvWk8FWE0m5qHLoSjF7YbDSJ0Wz2gpQ4ACtZ68AvhBX kbECbBxpyJTV7eJc8Q2e =asIY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vucuduTsglt7M2X7dnXQoGjl1hTFQhNmu--