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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mrj2tRbQjgXy1GERarYsvYqDewVrFxcQR" X-Archives-Salt: 2bc80806-986d-4217-8f35-a76bc1f633f1 X-Archives-Hash: 14a5292c646557b91d312b22350fd39b This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --mrj2tRbQjgXy1GERarYsvYqDewVrFxcQR Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="YRAyyxMZ8t51TjgNqVX2cqVuheiiJJ1TR"; protected-headers="v1" From: kuzetsa To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <2faff4c2-ed97-5a52-5078-365d1c6cf2a1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v4] References: <23325.35685.793702.267278@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <23337.15822.698153.812236@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: --YRAyyxMZ8t51TjgNqVX2cqVuheiiJJ1TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/27/2018 08:42 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:00 AM NP-Hardass wrot= e: >> >> On 09/26/2018 03:25 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> Here is another small update of the copyright GLEP, resulting from a >>> recent discussion on IRC. This is not a change of policy, but merely >>> a clarification of the real name requirement: >>> >>> - The Signed-off-by line must contain the name of a natural person. >>> >>> - A copyright holder can be a legal entity (e.g., a company) in some >>> jurisdictions. >>> >> >> IANAL, but as per the Berne Convention, anonymous and pseudonymous wor= ks >> are granted copyright protection. What's the rationale behind mandati= ng >> a real name? >=20 > The DCO/GCO have nothing to do with obtaining copyright protection. > This is always present if not waived. >=20 > It is about showing due diligence in the event somebody claims that > somebody ripped off their work and contributed it to Gentoo without > authorization. >=20 > If your real name is attached to a statement saying that you didn't > steal the work, and you did steal the work, then they can go after you > as well as Gentoo. That deters contributing stuff without checking on > its legality. That same deterrence also helps show good faith on > Gentoo's part. This is why organizations generally pursue these > policies. >=20 > If somebody violates a copyright anonymously, then they have no skin > in the game. They can just disappear if anything bad happens. If a > contributor isn't willing to stake their own money and reputation on > the statement that something is legal to contribute, then why should > Gentoo assume that they've put a lot of effort into the accuracy of > that statement? >=20 in this case, the GCO (or the DCO from which it borrowed it's ideas) should explicitly state its purposes, rather than relying on the assumption that a person can be tracked down if the license was is ever in doubt. people can and do physically relocate from time to time, and if they're no longer a contributor there's no way to track them down, should the need arise for any legal or ethical questions (the kind of purpose which the policy makes no mention of: a way to reach the contributor) - via key --YRAyyxMZ8t51TjgNqVX2cqVuheiiJJ1TR-- --mrj2tRbQjgXy1GERarYsvYqDewVrFxcQR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEMH8xDp5tbsOKHqmmvk1O/QUpfGcFAlus1kcACgkQvk1O/QUp fGf6/A/8D0o+GKAWDuZKi0O2BXVPpJE+bHdLQ4Gdy+K+TBOza7/eFyObj+J2hIwg Y5IsuU3NKU3IJaM+h34K5IEgN29FbglHz9cGEbfHuI4+U/nZCECFyA1G1LfnhQ4m w68vl2vUq6EI8bwAG8tL6M/UMuFXPNyh7Kg3WYc/dxBTKCkY/QOgda3U5UIgd1t1 7/wWcvP1G2lAhBgUIHUMdLOIkL8uwA4haBMEsAiKPMPI2X6TyfLXOQ+2Ec0YUh1o vvEkaxtEI/Pap5OSCQYOKNODfP6h2Z/LDB/qO0eTe5Cd+BbrzqPVSh/xSJ1bVTky Qrz2Yff3MywnTEgpcNPVCA3m2ReHbbwzIoxJvqn0rCw+ct9O/GGty4O9vvRWcrmS 7WpMaYFv+cC8I2kHl4009/PwJu1MMvJLdkJlbO2WdQkXOWnuxllLWsvObX3NZ6DV jJSV29LWPVi9Sdr3a1P61AccomL8LwBwZGq2yVjosqcUcEx5KcVdbvO7fxe2moh7 uPqu2KYJZnv5jEkYzDZbpopsuSbfBGE3MKCmkc//rk2MWw8fvn361SL0LVQn4HbP GPK9LadaXEv0Eg6XvTvlX+o92LDe0XVELGTM3HFpLe7t1fzeCM7ENodYa8hRUlWS KXwD5LvXzifBTe1fCpJiXEeCJjgY5ECk3xECN5h7nL5io/1aBnA= =Sae8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mrj2tRbQjgXy1GERarYsvYqDewVrFxcQR--