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From: David Seifert <soap@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 21:11:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29f89087d65e7418d0ef5a6f2b767758fc1991d7.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd3cc194-339a-126c-ed44-5061ba1a7381@gentoo.org>

On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:58 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 2020-06-23 19:34, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:17 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > > We haven't had a new EAPI in a while. I hope it stays that way,
> > 
> > Are you saying you're against fixing bugs in the current EAPI and
> > would
> > prefer ignoring the problems that have been identified so far?
> 
> Have you stopped punching yourself?
> 
> Nice false dichotomy you've set up, let me instead talk about
> something 
> unrelated ...
> > >   and we
> > > might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that
> > > there's
> > > fewer surprises
> > 
> > Are you going to achieve that by committing more ebuilds using
> > deprecated EAPIs?
> > 
> Ah damn it must feel good to yell at people.
> 
> I know what you mean, you know what you mean, everyone else is most 
> likely confused.
> 
> ... do you think this is a good use of time of the readers of this 
> mailinglist?
> 
> May I suggest that you keep your personal grievances to yourself and 
> possibly, maybe, not bother other people with it? But that's too much
> to 
> ask, and you REALLY like to attack me personally. (Like, I write two 
> emails and BAM there's a gorny trying to throw shade ... which is why 
> I've mostly abstained from mailinglists for a while. Too predictable
> and 
> no useful results)
> 
> So to get back to your first question, if there are useful changes
> then 
> of course we can discuss them. From my point of view that's fixing
> the 
> wrong things (the ebuild format in itself is ... hmm ... not very 
> optimal). And we've backdated changes into existing EAPIs, so if it's 
> "just" a bug the specification could be ammended and problem solve.
> 
> 
> To get back to the issue of personal attacks, I don't particularly
> enjoy 
> your brand of negativity, and would appreciate it if you didn't spray
> it 
> around like a male cat. I doubt you'll even understand this, as
> you've 
> carefully managed to skip any criticism before.
> 
> 
> Oh well, didn't have a proper flamewar in a while. Not going to have 
> one. Sad.
> 
> 
> Be excellent to each other,
> 
> Patrick
> 

Rest assured, those aren't just "personal grievances" of mgorny, lots of
people share them. Maybe time for some introspection on your part?



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-23 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-05 17:08 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open Roy Bamford
2020-06-05 17:33 ` Mikle Kolyada
2020-06-05 17:40   ` James Le Cuirot
2020-06-05 21:46   ` David Seifert
2020-06-06  8:05   ` Joonas Niilola
2020-06-06 15:24   ` Guilherme Amadio
2020-06-08 10:25   ` Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-06-09  9:54   ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-06-12 21:16   ` Georgy Yakovlev
2020-06-14  6:20   ` Stefan Strogin
2020-06-16  0:35   ` Max Magorsch
2020-06-18 17:45   ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-06-19 20:55   ` Michał Górny
2020-06-05 20:01 ` Patrick McLean
2020-06-06  6:46   ` William Hubbs
2020-06-15 21:06   ` Matt Turner
2020-06-06  1:09 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-06-08 12:09   ` Mart Raudsepp
2020-06-08 13:20   ` AW: " Thomas Deutschmann
2020-06-12 21:04   ` Mikle Kolyada
2020-06-06 15:28 ` Guilherme Amadio
2020-06-09  6:15   ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Haubenwallner
2020-06-09  9:33   ` [gentoo-project] " Benda Xu
2020-06-16 14:09 ` Mike Gilbert
2020-06-16 17:15   ` Sergei Trofimovich
2020-06-17  8:57 ` Fabian Groffen
2020-06-17 11:19   ` Benda Xu
2020-06-17 12:29   ` Brian Evans
2020-06-17 12:51   ` Louis Sautier
2020-06-17 14:45   ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Haubenwallner
2020-06-17 15:00   ` [gentoo-project] " Roy Bamford
2020-06-17 15:07   ` Mike
2020-06-17 15:39   ` Aaron Bauman
2020-06-17 15:43   ` Brian Dolbec
2020-06-17 15:46   ` Matthew Thode
2020-06-17 17:00   ` Lars Wendler
2020-06-17 18:14   ` Toralf Förster
2020-06-17 19:05   ` Alfredo Tupone
2020-06-17 20:39   ` Patrick Lauer
2020-06-23 17:17     ` Patrick Lauer
2020-06-23 17:34       ` Michał Górny
2020-06-23 17:58         ` Patrick Lauer
2020-06-23 19:11           ` David Seifert [this message]
2020-06-23 19:37             ` Patrick Lauer
2020-06-23 20:30           ` Michał Górny
2020-06-24  6:42             ` Fabian Groffen
2020-06-24 19:52             ` Patrick Lauer
2020-06-24 20:26               ` Matt Turner
2020-06-26 13:42                 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2020-06-17 21:20   ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2020-06-18  2:50   ` Yixun Lan
2020-06-18 17:36   ` Bernard Cafarelli
2020-06-19  3:49   ` Joshua Kinard
2020-06-19 17:47   ` Pacho Ramos
2020-06-17 14:46 ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Haubenwallner
2020-06-17 17:52   ` Fabian Groffen

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