From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DABF81382C5 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 04:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45D89E0A76; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 04:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2204E095A for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 04:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-01-10 (late call, meeting this week!) To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= References: <20210105184436.02bb5216@sf> <3e026015371226a2f039a5bc5938c7c314634528.camel@gentoo.org> <8c1c0b42-47c6-ee7f-5cbf-61555b2327d2@gentoo.org> <6ea7726394d21aae263ad3f69c42e4c4cd8719b7.camel@gentoo.org> From: desultory Message-ID: <297c8a90-bbf5-95b4-f431-51af7477b50f@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 23:57:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6ea7726394d21aae263ad3f69c42e4c4cd8719b7.camel@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 91a77927-30d6-4863-a00d-410eabed08bd X-Archives-Hash: 10783a34cbc271e3e019c0d1b0b09316 On 01/10/21 04:24, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2021-01-10 at 01:38 +0100, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> could you please provide a Wiki diff >> (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct) for your >> motion so everyone knows exactly how the changed CoC will look like when >> we will vote on this? > > I don't see how this is better than the new point separately but sure. > I've put it before 'Admit the possibility ...' since that seems related > to the last point, and the last point sounds final-ish. > > diff --git a/coc.mediawiki b/coc.mediawiki > index bcff0af..3edbeec 100644 > --- a/coc.mediawiki > +++ b/coc.mediawiki > @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@ Things that should be seen: > * '''Give accurate information in the spirit of being helpful.''' > * '''Respectfully disagree with or challenge other members.''' The operative word here is respectfully. > * '''Using the correct forum for your post.''' Bug reports and idle chatter do not belong on the gentoo-dev mailing list; discussion about a wide-ranging change to the tree probably does not belong on Bugzilla. Different fora will also have different standards of behaviour – a joke that is perfectly acceptable on IRC will be taken differently when made on a mailing list. > +* '''Use concise and clear language.''' The Gentoo community includes people from all over the world, with varying English skills and available time. > * '''Admit the possibility of fault and respect different point of views.''' Noone is perfect – you will get things wrong occasionally. Don't be afraid to admit this. Similarly, while something may seem perfectly obvious to you, others may see it differently. > * '''If you screw up, take responsibility for your actions.''' > > > So, just to be clear, you are pushing a suggestion which received much more negative feedback than positive and which you avoid following whenever possible?