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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call For Agenda Items - 13 May 2014
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On Saturday 10 May 2014 12:46:31 hasufell wrote:
> Samuli Suominen:
> > On 09/05/14 21:37, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> >>> It's counterproductive, means now user needs to read sourcecode of
> >>> each package to determine it for himself, no global USE="gtk"
> >>> possible anymore, massive pollution of package.use.
> >> 
> >> So, rehashing it in a thread to which it is unrelated yields no results.
> > 
> > I'm not so sure, it seems QA is picking policies as per what some loud
> > people on the ML say as opposed to giving overwhelming technical arguments
> > their proper weight
> 
> Well, if QA team members confuses "bugs" with "bug reports" and say they
> don't want to do actual work (aka tinderbox), because it would cause
> more "bugs", then I have serious doubts about their technical
> understanding of certain issues.

It's not about "want", it's about having the resources (mostly time) to do so.

If you wish to experience that for yourself - just build everything (I can 
give you a script to do so), and then triage bugs. It's great fun for the first 
few hundred failures :)