From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64D3A1382C5 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BD0DE0B9D; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BABCE0B8B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eris.zipang (pl48393.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp [1.33.233.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 728E5335C5A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Foundation meeting agenda for April 2018 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180408202704.p3f6ktidjnbfb7co@gentoo.org> <87woxh77l4.fsf@gentoo.org> <20180409001118.GA29309@clocktown> <5476501.U949GqNMEO@porto> <20180409095644.7sms46nvwibycmao@gentoo.org> From: Luca Barbato Message-ID: <23d776e4-0cc1-6eba-f42d-4eb91aea65bf@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 20:36:13 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180409095644.7sms46nvwibycmao@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: be23215c-87d4-420f-872f-4e1f945dd54f X-Archives-Hash: 3215bf0f9ef6552a29977ace1dcd1700 On 09/04/2018 18:56, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 18-04-09 10:23:53, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Montag, 9. April 2018, 02:11:19 CEST schrieb zlg: >>>> We request that the Gentoo Council and the Board of Trustees of the >>>> Gentoo >>>> Foundation affirm Gentoo's metastructure GLEP 39 as the governing >>>> principle >>>> of the Gentoo Linux developer community. In particular, both acknowledge >>>> the split between >>>> >>>> - the Gentoo Council, which is responsible for the Gentoo Linux >>>> developer >>>> >>>> community, its user base and all technical decisions, >>>> >>>> - and the Gentoo Foundation, whose role is to hold Gentoo's assets >>>> >>>> (such as trademarks and server infrastructure) and support the >>>> developer >>>> and user community. >> >> [snip] >>> To the Council: >>> >>> What makes you accountable to this community? Why should we trust or >>> respect you when you have nothing on the line except a title? What >>> happens next if these affirmations are made? What's your angle, your >>> real motivation? >> >> >> This proposal describes precisely >> * how I was taught "Gentoo works" for my quizzes sometime around 2010 > You could have been taught wrong Well, I'm part of this community since pretty much the beginning, that was the idea when the whole metastructure got created. >> * how the cooperation and separation of responsibilities between council and >> foundation worked for the years since then > Just means it's been disfunctional for years Since nobody complained about it, I tend to disagree... lu