From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94755138330 for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 22:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E03C7E086F; Wed, 30 May 2018 22:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A575EE07D7 for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 22:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (host2092.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ulm) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6936335C85; Wed, 30 May 2018 22:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <23311.8081.977179.449983@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 00:02:57 +0200 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Poll: Would you sign a Contributer License Agreement? In-Reply-To: References: <23310.46809.293787.611345@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp+signed+mol2UgZXtaOEnXW"; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: a4364b9b-f843-49ac-8610-a5f1b6745d25 X-Archives-Hash: 7b955455f4164fce98d2b625586e53c6 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --pgp+signed+mol2UgZXtaOEnXW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> On Wed, 30 May 2018, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:45 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> I have a nit question: >> Can we please call the agreement "FLA" instead of "CLA", since it >> is derived from FSFE's FLA-2.0, and is still a FLA at it's heart, >> rather than a USian-centric CLA? > As a USian, I second the motion. I think the FLA is a copyleft > approach to CLA-like documents and I'd prefer that anybody who is > adverse to CLAs in general take a moment to understand what the FLA > does before rushing to judgment. We have been asked by the FSFE not to call it FLA if we modify it. And although I don't like this proliferation of versions, neither for the DCO nor for the FLA, we don't have a choice here: FLA-2.0 [1] says in section 4 (my emphasis): | We agree to (sub)license the Contribution or any Materials | containing, based on or derived from your Contribution under the | terms of any licenses the Free Software Foundation classifies as | free licenses *and* which are approved by the Open Source Initiative | as Open Source licenses. So it requires that we distribute any contribution only under a license approved by both the FSF and the OSI. However, the OSI's list of approved licenses [2] doesn't include any of the Creative Commons licenses, which would prevent us from using CC-BY-SA-3.0 for our documentation. Therefore the "and" is changed to an "or", which is also the most significant change in the Gentoo version. The other two changes are that we have removed the reference to an "entity version" which doesn't exist, and that we call our product simply "Gentoo Linux" instead of "Gentoo Foundation's Gentoo Linux" (the latter being the term that results from the FSFE's FLA generator). Ulrich [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/cla/fla-2.0.pdf [2] https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical --pgp+signed+mol2UgZXtaOEnXW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJbDx+QAAoJEMMJBoUcYcJz+MYH/1G9Zmzwr7nn2XWmzFKgo8w0 Le4MJMrE0EjN4xQUAaCauck9ivM+t6pcrK1wN8X1otNFc3TJFb7B9nI5TC5DJ1ZS wS81n4ku+Bn1sLrmd1rLGb/Lm/oZhxNZ4fvb004Ky9Y8avAbrzFv5bmV1djz2rhF ANNNMtIsz0HaF9lWLJkH6rJzGU2Bc5knJFQOXVGAeEiY7rx40v7kwZLXv43RUfij vzap6WnoZlsCLMmqYJ4Q1lMYYkpCaT0FE1mXe1ljozI5ioJGwNe9S1YBMCYUN0Pq njtmJ/u+HvrB+t+Q+eDYbenXuerdoAJ65y62UDZIamsIYaHYtdiOf/+PC/xR7mg= =656z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp+signed+mol2UgZXtaOEnXW--