From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CCE21381F1 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4393E0B0D; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kph.uni-mainz.de (mail.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 979E1E0A9D for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de (mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.27]) by mail.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u9BFxfa3046810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:59:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de) Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u9BFxeCS012117 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:59:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de) Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u9BFxcIZ008657; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:59:38 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id u9BFxct4008653; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:59:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:59:38 +0200 Message-ID: <22525.3178.476045.64534@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... In-Reply-To: References: <22524.55545.90485.698163@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp+signed+0JNgrbSGF+zp4v6"; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.132.27]); Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:59:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mailgate-1.kph.uni-mainz.de X-Archives-Salt: 271f7966-4280-493d-8e0e-9b581f8763e0 X-Archives-Hash: 2f867c0a2082a87e07e3c60886459ac4 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --pgp+signed+0JNgrbSGF+zp4v6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016, William L Thomson wrote: >> There were only two changes with regards to content after inception >> of the CoC: One in 2008, replacing proctors by devrel und userrel >> (bug 185572), > I was not aware comrel and userrel were created in 2008. Both projects are much older. The timing relates to the dissolution of the proctors project, see the 2007-07-12 council meeting log. > Timing is quite interesting. That could explain quite allot, and why > at least in my opinion. Gentoo has been on the decline since ~2008. > I do not feel either has had a good or positive impact. The issues > in Gentoo could be directly related. Since the premise is wrong, this doesn't follow. Ulrich --pgp+signed+0JNgrbSGF+zp4v6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX/QxoAAoJEMMJBoUcYcJztNkH/RnoyOgSGto6Mg/djGR7NDBu rZCYC85Tbyj5CY4pWfmMuHvGQg6UX87KbsNUW95NASZ0iaNV9qpF27ZDN675eTKI xUzCAxyC1vhsDI4Zgp7iC921WPNi5rDWPtycU4FgUJcdB4RF9rmJclAG2IgdHfIb 4pthOYCA+0gQj05sTdoGzWJuTb/6aS+dOqHh9bDamHQ+Ufc2noSK9JKqwMnP/CYE 92jylihBErleDd7ycOCVG8Hdn8LJFK/XR01g8vhj4UP10HTWvL34JeSGxF28gKa3 iyHWQyhNDg5MFvlD5GvYc/acE4OTGFJ6xPvLpd8wga5LJjDGw/edBlRk937opIk= =Z3u6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp+signed+0JNgrbSGF+zp4v6--