Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11

[Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>]

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>>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Rich Freeman wrote:

> So, this has been going around in various circles, and I think it is
> better to just air stuff out here.  There are lots of arguments for
> and against this.  I'm interested in what the general sense is,
> beyond just those who have been vocal in bringing this up.

> I'd like the Council to consider:
> 1.  Decide that games should not be owned by a games group, and that
> in the default configuration users should not have to be in the
> games group to run games.

Definitely +1 from me. We should get rid of the games group
altogether.

> 2.  Games should be installed in /usr and not /usr/games as with most
> applications

I have no strong opinion on this one. There are arguments for both
alternatives.

> 3.  Assuming 1&2 are both approved, deprecate games.eclass.
> Otherwise modify it accordingly.
> 4.  If 1&2 aren't approved, when should the games policy apply?
> Does it include games bundled in kde/gnome/etc?  Do we intend to
> give more or less deference to maintainers when there is a dispute
> over whether something is a "game?"  I'm not going to ask the
> Council to define "game."

> I don't want to get too much further into detail than that (does
> nethack bones go in /var/lib/nethack, or /var/lib/games/nethack, and
> what gid is used?).  I think that beyond a point it is best left to
> the games team or maintainers.  Honestly, I'm not even 100% convinced
> that we shouldn't leave the whole thing to the games team, but right
> now we don't have an active one, and it seems like a lot of people
> are passionate about it so I'm more inclined to set a policy now
> than let the games team set a policy and then yell at them for
> getting it wrong.

I want to point out that we have a QA policy on shared high-score or
game state files:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Policies#Games

It's short enough to quote it here:
"Games that need privileged access to shared high-score or game state
files can be installed setgid (mode g+s or 2755). Group "gamestat"
with gid 36 (but not the "games" group) should be used for them.
The files for state/scores should then be created in /var/games or
a subdirectory of it and have appropriate owner and permissions
(root:gamestat, mode g+w)."

Ulrich

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