From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDB61387FD for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AB5DE0AD7; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f53.google.com (mail-qg0-f53.google.com [209.85.192.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A84EE0AA1 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id e89so1112319qgf.26 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=/V0FLeRvFBVdH+JiWLbPbwancLe158W0hTI2ki/m3IA=; b=goNqHsrNb337QcSZ7UjdepMcvDg5kFfzB5ijdwu9/QfY4di/0l1CAFFuvlyLvRNVuh nGAQw+FbRbyrEbBJaBjNbJwztVB431nqSARfxRj25ZL/2ouazxWFzylQI5fyIuFAOyfi K9BZyhGQcA03lOMJbYecbrlKHI9h7zhQoU8PeRHP0SJc3oQah+H744hbrQveoM3Nm+I6 nqN6qep+fE5lHP6aD4uIqskqqliLP0pjuTiq/iQrtIdZs/LWv+/NzcuBvff77v9pTNw0 n3H55AReOOdtn4Td3q6hYfzntu1YztU5IA87DIQ8WDdwPoWLMx+Lb/Skq9opzx9FZ573 ChHQ== X-Received: by 10.224.112.6 with SMTP id u6mr9223788qap.78.1396289542588; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iris.localnet (fl-71-53-134-164.dhcp.embarqhsd.net. [71.53.134.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u7sm29777313qap.5.2014.03.31.11.12.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Douglas James Dunn To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:12:18 -0400 Message-ID: <2031188.fx5o40VAL2@iris> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.5 (Linux/3.13.7; KDE/4.11.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <5339AC69.3000307@gentoo.org> References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <5339AC69.3000307@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: b087f8db-4c7f-4a7e-a86b-39073576980e X-Archives-Hash: 557ea011634d3f7063a4c5ed7d6e1ac6 On Monday, March 31, 2014 01:56:57 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 31/03/14 01:27 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny > >=20 > > wrote: > >> Dnia 2014-03-31, o godz. 06:56:19 Joshua Kinard > >>=20 > >> napisa=C5=82(a): > >>> In some respect, if all one cares about is free space on a disk > >>> drive or how fast they can stream a movie, then the KiB/MiB > >>> thing works. But if you play with bits and bytes from > >>> time-to-time (and worry about byte alignment) or sometimes > >>> fiddle w/ partition tables in a hex editor...you're going to > >>> think in terms of powers of two. > >=20 > > KiB/MiB ARE powers of two. It is KB/MB which are powers of ten > > (depending on who you talk to). > >=20 > > Drive sizes tend to be reported in MB/GB, and memory tends to be > > reported in MiB, GiB (though they may or may not use those > > abbreviations when doing so). >=20 > This is very much old "standard" vs new standard in terms of naming. > For those of us that have been around long enough, Mega/Kilo/etc have= > always meant 1024 when addressing computational storage, as per for > instance ANSI/IEEE Std 1084-1986. However, as people know this did > become (or has always been) used ambiguously and so these terms were > apparently deprecated in favour of MiB, KiB etc by the IEC starting a= t > around 1996 and with formal adoption 1999 with IEC 60027-2 Amendment = 2 > (and expanded adoption in ISO/IEC IEC 80000-13:2008) >=20 > [*] source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix >=20 > +1 for usage of {K,M,G,T,...}iB as per standard. +1, the IEC is the way everyone is going, for reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_binary_prefixes