From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A47E1382C5 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49DD6E084A; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 285CFE083D for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:06:53 -0500 From: "Aaron W. Swenson" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Message-ID: <20201201150653.GA23023@gsmrlinux2> References: <20201130164650.j46wjcxzethfn6qp@hydra> <5284753.ZASKD2KPVS@farino> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5284753.ZASKD2KPVS@farino> X-Archives-Salt: bd07b311-e195-4e01-850d-ffcd0321da4d X-Archives-Hash: 10256d492700d82b36efeb26afbf8657 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 05:15:30AM +0200, Andreas K. H=FCttel wrote: >> Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to >> repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously >> suggested one (since the last meeting). > >I would like to propose the council consider shutting down the "Off the Wa= ll" >(OTW) forum on forums.gentoo.org permanently and without replacement. > >Rationale: > >* provides zero value to the distribution >* large parts of the content are toxic and not something I (and others) wi= sh > Gentoo to be associated with >* it caters to a set of users somewhat distinct from the rest of the forums > (e.g., >5000 posts in OTW, <100 elsewhere) >* forum moderators have made clear they are not going to fulfill their rol= es > (e.g., regarding the code of conduct) in OTW, following a similar discus= sion > one year ago > >This leaves us with two options: > >1) shut down OTW >or >2) replace or supplement forum moderators with people willing to fulfill t= he > moderator role in OTW I propose a third and fourth option here: Make it a privileged area, or spl= it off to a Religion & Politics forum. Some other communities have made a dedicated "Religion & Politics" area des= pite the community having no connection to religion and politics otherwise. User= s who wish to access the area would need to submit a request via PM to gain acces= s. As part of the request, the user acknowledges that the forum will be relatively free from moderation. Only requests for threats of injury will be moderated. Basically, words are allowed, but stick and stones aren't. Additionally, it makes the forum private so the topics therein won't come u= p in searches, but will still be publicly available. This should minimize non-Ge= ntoo user participation. > >I dont see 2) happen (for the simple reasons >* that it will be difficult to find someone to do the work >* and that noone has volunteered to do it over the past year >), so 1) it is. > >Cheers, Andreas > >--=20 >Andreas K. H=FCttel >dilfridge@gentoo.org >Gentoo Linux developer >(council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEABYKAH0WIQQEC6Ot+QKFRWIXfOT/l1wNKJSl0QUCX8ZcB18UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0MDQw QkEzQURGOTAyODU0NTYyMTc3Q0U0RkY5NzVDMEQyODk0QTVEMQAKCRD/l1wNKJSl 0VtFAQDYSbv0y4HHi5W9jZ5gNSi/KqZXsKwynsGF/UYfSdLDfAEAsQXxiVyPx6m+ Fwurvo6O4kC3LiHFcowr2Ko6cEYnTQw= =FRTE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua--