[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Roy Bamford]

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Team,

The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
elections
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
arm64

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Mikle Kolyada]

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On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Team,
>
> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>

I'd like to nominate:

amadio
amynka
arzano
asturm
chewi
dilfridge
gokturk
gyakovlev
juippis
lu_zero
mgorny
soap
steils
ulm


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[James Le Cuirot]

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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:33:38 +0300
Mikle Kolyada <zlogene@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> >
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> >  
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> amadio
> amynka
> arzano
> asturm
> chewi

Many thanks but no thanks. :)

> dilfridge
> gokturk
> gyakovlev
> juippis
> lu_zero
> mgorny
> soap
> steils
> ulm

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Patrick McLean]

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:08:50 +0100
Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Team,
> 
> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)

I would like to nominate:
williamh
mattst88

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[David Seifert]

On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 20:33 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> > 
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now
> > open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> > 
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> amadio
> amynka
> arzano
> asturm
> chewi
> dilfridge
> gokturk
> gyakovlev
> juippis
> lu_zero
> mgorny
> soap

Thanks, but I won't run, because I plan on steering the QA ship and
don't want to start another "checks and balances" debate.

> steils
> ulm
> 

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Aaron Bauman]

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On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 06:08:50PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Team,
> 
> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Roy Bamford
> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
> elections
> gentoo-ops
> forum-mods
> arm64

I would like to nominate:

dilfridge
whissi
kent\n
leio
zlogene


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Cheers,
Aaron

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[William Hubbs]

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On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 01:01:59PM -0700, Patrick McLean wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:08:50 +0100
> Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > Team,
> > 
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> 
> I would like to nominate:
> williamh

Thanks Patrick,

I accept.

William

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Joonas Niilola]

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On 6/5/20 8:33 PM, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> I'd like to nominate:
>
> amadio
> amynka
> arzano
> asturm
> chewi
> dilfridge
> gokturk
> gyakovlev
> juippis
> lu_zero
> mgorny
> soap
> steils
> ulm
>
Thanks! Sorry I have to decline for now. Definitely interested, but I'd
be lying if I said I have time or energy for it in the following months.
Next year!

-- juippis



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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Guilherme Amadio]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 08:33:38PM +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> >
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> >
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> amadio

Thank you very much for the nomination! However, my kids are still just
1.5 years old (I have twins), so I don't have enough time to be able to
accept for this year. Hopefully at a later election! When my kids were
born I didn't send pictures to the list, but better late than never...
Here they are when they were less than a month old and how they are now:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RfcSUrj1LYM32CtSA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/w6QFRwQjXQbHGNpN9

Best,
-Guilherme

> amynka
> arzano
> asturm
> chewi
> dilfridge
> gokturk
> gyakovlev
> juippis
> lu_zero
> mgorny
> soap
> steils
> ulm
> 

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Guilherme Amadio]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 06:08:50PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Team,
> 
> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)

I would like to nominate:

blueness
haubi
heroxbd
leio
perfinion
tamiko

Best regards,
-Guilherme

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Andreas K. Hüttel]

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Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2020, 20:33:38 EEST schrieb Mikle Kolyada:
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> > 
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
[...]
> dilfridge

Thanks, I accept. 

-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer 
(council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Mart Raudsepp]

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Ühel kenal päeval, R, 05.06.2020 kell 21:09, kirjutas Aaron Bauman:
> I would like to nominate:
> 
> leio

Thanks Aaron and Guilherme.

As for at least the next 4 months I wouldn't have much more time to
dedicate to the council, other than preparing for and participating in
the meetings, I'm going to have to decline for this round of elections.


Mart

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AW: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Thomas Deutschmann]

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Hi,

Aaron Bauman wrote:
> I would like to nominate: 
> 
> dilfridge 
> whissi 
> [...]

Thank you for nomination, I accept.


-- 
Regards,
Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
fpr: C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5

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[gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Michael Haubenwallner]

On 6/6/20 5:28 PM, Guilherme Amadio wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 06:08:50PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> 
> I would like to nominate:

> haubi

Thanks, but I have to decline.

/haubi/

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Benda Xu]

Guilherme Amadio <amadio@gentoo.org> writes:

> heroxbd

Thank you!  But I have to decline this year.

Benda

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2020, Mikle Kolyada wrote:

> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)

> I'd like to nominate:

> [...]
> ulm

Thank you. I accept.

Ulrich

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Mikle Kolyada]

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Thanks, Aaron. I accept

6 июня 2020 г. 4:09:43 GMT+03:00, Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org> пишет:
>On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 06:08:50PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>> 
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now
>open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Roy Bamford
>> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
>> elections
>> gentoo-ops
>> forum-mods
>> arm64
>
>I would like to nominate:
>
>dilfridge
>whissi
>kent\n
>leio
>zlogene
>
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
>Aaron

-- 
Простите за краткость, создано в K-9 Mail.

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Georgy Yakovlev]

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On 6/5/20 10:33 AM, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>>
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> amadio
> amynka
> arzano
> asturm
> chewi
> dilfridge
> gokturk
> gyakovlev
thanks! I accept.
> juippis
> lu_zero
> mgorny
> soap
> steils
> ulm
> 



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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Stefan Strogin]

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On 05/06/2020 20:33, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>>
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> [...]
> steils

Thanks Mikle. I accept.


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Matt Turner]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:02 PM Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org> wrote:
> mattst88

Thanks, I accept.

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Max Magorsch]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 5:33 PM Mikle Kolyada <zlogene@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> >
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> >
>
> I'd like to nominate:
>
> amadio
> amynka
> arzano

Thank you, I accept.

> asturm
> chewi
> dilfridge
> gokturk
> gyakovlev
> juippis
> lu_zero
> mgorny
> soap
> steils
> ulm
>

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Mike Gilbert]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:08 PM Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)

I nominate slyfox on behalf of Stephan, who is not currently
subscribed to the project list.

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Sergei Trofimovich]

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 10:09:24 -0400
Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:08 PM Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)  
> 
> I nominate slyfox on behalf of Stephan, who is not currently
> subscribed to the project list.

I accept the nomination.

Thank you both!

-- 

  Sergei

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Fabian Groffen]

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I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):

aballier
ago
aidecoe
alexxy
alicef
alonbl
amadio
amynka
anarchy
asturm
axs
bircoph
bkohler
blueness
bman
cedk
chainsaw
chewi
chithanh
chutzpah
dev-zero
djc
dlan
dolsen
eva
floppym
fordfrog
graaff
grknight
grozin
gyakovlev
hanno
hattya
haubi
hd_brummy
heroxbd
idl0r
jer
jlec
jmbsvicetto
johu
jstein
junghans
k_f
kensington
kentnl
klausman
kumba
leio
lordvan
lu_zero
maffblaster
maksbotan
mattst88
monsieurp
mpagano
mschiff
mva
neddyseagon
nerdboy
pacho
patrick
perfinion
pesa
pinkbyte
polynomial-c
prometheanfire
radhermit
rafaelmartins
revertm
sbraz
slyfox
sping
tamiko
toralf
tupone
ulm
voyageur
whissi
williamh
wraeth
zlogene
zorry


Thanks,
Fabian


On 05-06-2020 18:08:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Team,
> 
> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Roy Bamford
> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
> elections
> gentoo-ops
> forum-mods
> arm64



-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Benda Xu]

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Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> writes:

> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> ...
> heroxbd

Thanks Fabian.  But I have to decline this year.

Cheers,
Benda

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Brian Evans]

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On 6/17/2020 4:57 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 

> grknight
I decline, thanks.

Brian



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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Louis Sautier]

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On 17/06/2020 10:57, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 

> sbraz
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
> 
> 

Thanks Fabian, but I decline.


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[gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Michael Haubenwallner]

On 6/17/20 10:57 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):

> haubi

Thanks Fabian, but I have declined already.
/haubi/

[gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Michael Haubenwallner]

There's one still missing - I nominate:

grobian

Thanks!
/haubi/

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Roy Bamford]

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On 2020.06.17 09:57, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
[snip]
> neddyseagon
[snip]
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
> 
> 
[snip]

Fabian,

Thank you but I need to decline. 
My Gentoo time is both seasonal and sporadic, so I cannot commit to giving the role the time it deserves. 

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
elections
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
arm64

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Mike]

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On 6/17/20 4:57 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
> mpagano
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
> 
> 
> On 05-06-2020 18:08:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roy Bamford
>> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
>> elections
>> gentoo-ops
>> forum-mods
>> arm64
> 
> 
> 

Thanks Fabian, but I decline.


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Aaron Bauman]

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:57:37AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 

Thank you for the mass nomination. I accept.

-- 
Cheers,
Aaron

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Brian Dolbec]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:57:37 +0200
Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote:

> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 

> dolsen

> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
> 

Thanks, I accept

Brian

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Matthew Thode]

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On 20-06-17 10:57:37, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
* SNIP *
> polynomial-c
> prometheanfire
> radhermit
> rafaelmartins
> revertm
* SNIP *
> 

I decline the nomination due to conflict of also running for the Trustee
position.

-- 
Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Lars Wendler]

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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:57:37 +0200 Fabian Groffen wrote:

>I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
>
>aballier
>ago
>aidecoe
>alexxy
>alicef
>alonbl
>amadio
>amynka
>anarchy
>asturm
>axs
>bircoph
>bkohler
>blueness
>bman
>cedk
>chainsaw
>chewi
>chithanh
>chutzpah
>dev-zero
>djc
>dlan
>dolsen
>eva
>floppym
>fordfrog
>graaff
>grknight
>grozin
>gyakovlev
>hanno
>hattya
>haubi
>hd_brummy
>heroxbd
>idl0r
>jer
>jlec
>jmbsvicetto
>johu
>jstein
>junghans
>k_f
>kensington
>kentnl
>klausman
>kumba
>leio
>lordvan
>lu_zero
>maffblaster
>maksbotan
>mattst88
>monsieurp
>mpagano
>mschiff
>mva
>neddyseagon
>nerdboy
>pacho
>patrick
>perfinion
>pesa
>pinkbyte
>polynomial-c

Thank you very much but I must respectfully decline.

>prometheanfire
>radhermit
>rafaelmartins
>revertm
>sbraz
>slyfox
>sping
>tamiko
>toralf
>tupone
>ulm
>voyageur
>whissi
>williamh
>wraeth
>zlogene
>zorry
>
>
>Thanks,
>Fabian
>
>
>On 05-06-2020 18:08:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>> 
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now
>> open. It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Roy Bamford
>> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
>> elections
>> gentoo-ops
>> forum-mods
>> arm64
>
>
>

Kind regards
Lars

-- 
Lars Wendler
Gentoo package maintainer
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[gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Fabian Groffen]

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On 17-06-2020 16:46:53 +0200, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
> There's one still missing - I nominate:
> 
> grobian

Thanks!  But I don't realistically have time, sorry.

Fabian

> 
> Thanks!
> /haubi/
> 

-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Toralf Förster]

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On 6/17/20 10:57 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
...
> toralf

Thank you very much but I must respectfully decline.


-- 
Toralf
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Alfredo Tupone]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:57:37 +0200
Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote:

> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
> aballier
> ago
> aidecoe
> alexxy
> alicef
> alonbl
> amadio
> amynka
> anarchy
> asturm
> axs
> bircoph
> bkohler
> blueness
> bman
> cedk
> chainsaw
> chewi
> chithanh
> chutzpah
> dev-zero
> djc
> dlan
> dolsen
> eva
> floppym
> fordfrog
> graaff
> grknight
> grozin
> gyakovlev
> hanno
> hattya
> haubi
> hd_brummy
> heroxbd
> idl0r
> jer
> jlec
> jmbsvicetto
> johu
> jstein
> junghans
> k_f
> kensington
> kentnl
> klausman
> kumba
> leio
> lordvan
> lu_zero
> maffblaster
> maksbotan
> mattst88
> monsieurp
> mpagano
> mschiff
> mva
> neddyseagon
> nerdboy
> pacho
> patrick
> perfinion
> pesa
> pinkbyte
> polynomial-c
> prometheanfire
> radhermit
> rafaelmartins
> revertm
> sbraz
> slyfox
> sping
> tamiko
> toralf
> tupone
Thanks. I decline

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Patrick Lauer]

On 2020-06-17 10:57, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
[...]
> patrick

I accept the nomination


> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
> 
> 
> On 05-06-2020 18:08:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
>> It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roy Bamford
>> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
>> elections
>> gentoo-ops
>> forum-mods
>> arm64
> 
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Amadeusz Żołnowski]

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Thank you, but I must decline. I've announced my retirement some time
ago due to no longer having time for Gentoo.


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Yixun Lan]

On 10:57 Wed 17 Jun     , Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
> ..
> dlan

thanks, but I decline

-- 
Yixun Lan (dlan)
Gentoo Linux Developer
GPG Key ID AABEFD55

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Bernard Cafarelli]

Le Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:57:37 +0200
Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> a écrit:

> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
> aballier
> ago
> aidecoe
> alexxy
> alicef
> alonbl
> amadio
> amynka
> anarchy
> asturm
> axs
> bircoph
> bkohler
> blueness
> bman
> cedk
> chainsaw
> chewi
> chithanh
> chutzpah
> dev-zero
> djc
> dlan
> dolsen
> eva
> floppym
> fordfrog
> graaff
> grknight
> grozin
> gyakovlev
> hanno
> hattya
> haubi
> hd_brummy
> heroxbd
> idl0r
> jer
> jlec
> jmbsvicetto
> johu
> jstein
> junghans
> k_f
> kensington
> kentnl
> klausman
> kumba
> leio
> lordvan
> lu_zero
> maffblaster
> maksbotan
> mattst88
> monsieurp
> mpagano
> mschiff
> mva
> neddyseagon
> nerdboy
> pacho
> patrick
> perfinion
> pesa
> pinkbyte
> polynomial-c
> prometheanfire
> radhermit
> rafaelmartins
> revertm
> sbraz
> slyfox
> sping
> tamiko
> toralf
> tupone
> ulm
> voyageur
Thanks Fabian! But I decline
> whissi
> williamh
> wraeth
> zlogene
> zorry
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
> 
> 
> On 05-06-2020 18:08:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> > 
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Roy Bamford
> > (Neddyseagoon) a member of
> > elections
> > gentoo-ops
> > forum-mods
> > arm64  
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Fabian Groffen
> Gentoo on a different level


-- 
Bernard Cafarelli (Voyageur)
Gentoo developer

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Andreas Sturmlechner]

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On Friday, 5 June 2020 19:33:38 CEST Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> > 
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> [...]
> asturm

thanks, but I'll decline this time.

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Joshua Kinard]

On 6/17/2020 04:57, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
> aballier
> ago
> aidecoe
> alexxy
> alicef
> alonbl
> amadio
> amynka
> anarchy
> asturm
> axs
> bircoph
> bkohler
> blueness
> bman
> cedk
> chainsaw
> chewi
> chithanh
> chutzpah
> dev-zero
> djc
> dlan
> dolsen
> eva
> floppym
> fordfrog
> graaff
> grknight
> grozin
> gyakovlev
> hanno
> hattya
> haubi
> hd_brummy
> heroxbd
> idl0r
> jer
> jlec
> jmbsvicetto
> johu
> jstein
> junghans
> k_f
> kensington
> kentnl
> klausman
> kumba
> leio
> lordvan
> lu_zero
> maffblaster
> maksbotan
> mattst88
> monsieurp
> mpagano
> mschiff
> mva
> neddyseagon
> nerdboy
> pacho
> patrick
> perfinion
> pesa
> pinkbyte
> polynomial-c
> prometheanfire
> radhermit
> rafaelmartins
> revertm
> sbraz
> slyfox
> sping
> tamiko
> toralf
> tupone
> ulm
> voyageur
> whissi
> williamh
> wraeth
> zlogene
> zorry

I appreciate the thought, but have to decline.

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@gentoo.org
rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27
177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943

"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.  And
our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."

--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Pacho Ramos]

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El mié, 17-06-2020 a las 10:57 +0200, Fabian Groffen escribió:
> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> 
[...]

Thanks a lot, but I have to decline (not enough time)

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Michał Górny]

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On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 20:33 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
> On 05.06.2020 20:08, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Team,
> > 
> > The nomination period for the 2020 / 2021 council election is now open.
> > It closes at the end of the day, June 18th (June 19 00:00 UTC)
> > 
> 
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> mgorny
> 

Thank you for your trust but I'm going to decline.  I'm spending way too
much time on Gentoo already, and I'd prefer dedicating my time to
technical work where we are in constant need of more people than to
politics where we seem to have more than enough candidates.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Patrick Lauer]

On 2020-06-17 22:39, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 2020-06-17 10:57, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>> I nominate (apologies in advance for any duplicates):
> [...]
>> patrick
> 
> I accept the nomination
> 

So people may or may not want or want not a manifesto.

Instead I offer you a "20 years of Gentoo" Codeswarm video:

http://gentooexperimental.org/~patrick/codeswarm2020.mp4
(x265, 1080p, CC BY-NC 4.0 )

Looking at that I'd say Gentoo, as a whole, is doing pretty ok.

Council hasn't had much to decide on the last months, and I think that's 
a good thing.
Personally I've not had that much time, between personal issues and work 
it's been unexpectedly exciting. And the time I have for gentoo things 
mostly gets budgeted by others.
(I have a faint hope that this may change, but no guarantees ...)

I don't appreciate the deletionists who want to rip out everything 
that's older than 6 weeks and not on Github, but that's their thing and 
who am I to judge. It it were up to me we would spend more time on 
making Gentoo boring so that we have time for the really interesting 
things instead of trying to rewrite everything and have constant churn 
and maximal entropy.

We haven't had a new EAPI in a while. I hope it stays that way, and we 
might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that there's 
fewer surprises (pop quiz: what's the difference between EAPI 3 and EAPI 
4?).
Boring is good. Complexity is the enemy.

I have lots of opinions, so if you don't vote you increase the risk that 
I get voted into the council again and you'll have to tolerate said 
opinions. Every voter can do their contribution to influence the result, 
so do the patriotic thing and vote.


Be excellent to each other,

Patrick

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Michał Górny]

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On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:17 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> We haven't had a new EAPI in a while. I hope it stays that way,

Are you saying you're against fixing bugs in the current EAPI and would
prefer ignoring the problems that have been identified so far?

>  and we 
> might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that there's 
> fewer surprises

Are you going to achieve that by committing more ebuilds using
deprecated EAPIs?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Patrick Lauer]

On 2020-06-23 19:34, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:17 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> We haven't had a new EAPI in a while. I hope it stays that way,
> 
> Are you saying you're against fixing bugs in the current EAPI and would
> prefer ignoring the problems that have been identified so far?

Have you stopped punching yourself?

Nice false dichotomy you've set up, let me instead talk about something 
unrelated ...
> 
>>   and we
>> might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that there's
>> fewer surprises
> 
> Are you going to achieve that by committing more ebuilds using
> deprecated EAPIs?
> 
Ah damn it must feel good to yell at people.

I know what you mean, you know what you mean, everyone else is most 
likely confused.

... do you think this is a good use of time of the readers of this 
mailinglist?

May I suggest that you keep your personal grievances to yourself and 
possibly, maybe, not bother other people with it? But that's too much to 
ask, and you REALLY like to attack me personally. (Like, I write two 
emails and BAM there's a gorny trying to throw shade ... which is why 
I've mostly abstained from mailinglists for a while. Too predictable and 
no useful results)

So to get back to your first question, if there are useful changes then 
of course we can discuss them. From my point of view that's fixing the 
wrong things (the ebuild format in itself is ... hmm ... not very 
optimal). And we've backdated changes into existing EAPIs, so if it's 
"just" a bug the specification could be ammended and problem solve.


To get back to the issue of personal attacks, I don't particularly enjoy 
your brand of negativity, and would appreciate it if you didn't spray it 
around like a male cat. I doubt you'll even understand this, as you've 
carefully managed to skip any criticism before.


Oh well, didn't have a proper flamewar in a while. Not going to have 
one. Sad.


Be excellent to each other,

Patrick

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[David Seifert]

On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:58 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 2020-06-23 19:34, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:17 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > > We haven't had a new EAPI in a while. I hope it stays that way,
> > 
> > Are you saying you're against fixing bugs in the current EAPI and
> > would
> > prefer ignoring the problems that have been identified so far?
> 
> Have you stopped punching yourself?
> 
> Nice false dichotomy you've set up, let me instead talk about
> something 
> unrelated ...
> > >   and we
> > > might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that
> > > there's
> > > fewer surprises
> > 
> > Are you going to achieve that by committing more ebuilds using
> > deprecated EAPIs?
> > 
> Ah damn it must feel good to yell at people.
> 
> I know what you mean, you know what you mean, everyone else is most 
> likely confused.
> 
> ... do you think this is a good use of time of the readers of this 
> mailinglist?
> 
> May I suggest that you keep your personal grievances to yourself and 
> possibly, maybe, not bother other people with it? But that's too much
> to 
> ask, and you REALLY like to attack me personally. (Like, I write two 
> emails and BAM there's a gorny trying to throw shade ... which is why 
> I've mostly abstained from mailinglists for a while. Too predictable
> and 
> no useful results)
> 
> So to get back to your first question, if there are useful changes
> then 
> of course we can discuss them. From my point of view that's fixing
> the 
> wrong things (the ebuild format in itself is ... hmm ... not very 
> optimal). And we've backdated changes into existing EAPIs, so if it's 
> "just" a bug the specification could be ammended and problem solve.
> 
> 
> To get back to the issue of personal attacks, I don't particularly
> enjoy 
> your brand of negativity, and would appreciate it if you didn't spray
> it 
> around like a male cat. I doubt you'll even understand this, as
> you've 
> carefully managed to skip any criticism before.
> 
> 
> Oh well, didn't have a proper flamewar in a while. Not going to have 
> one. Sad.
> 
> 
> Be excellent to each other,
> 
> Patrick
> 

Rest assured, those aren't just "personal grievances" of mgorny, lots of
people share them. Maybe time for some introspection on your part?

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Patrick Lauer]

On 2020-06-23 21:11, David Seifert wrote:

> Rest assured, those aren't just "personal grievances" of mgorny, lots of
> people share them. Maybe time for some introspection on your part?
> 
> 

Y'know, it's kinda rude to jump into a discussion like that.

And now I know that it's two people who like to repeatedly state that 
they don't like me (as if I didn't notice that the last, err, dozens of 
times you repeated yourself). Doesn't make 'lots of people' yet.

... was this really worth sending to a mailinglist so that hundreds of 
people have to read about how you feel?

(Come on, people, we used to have proper flamewars here, not just this 
unmotivated whining ... I expect better!)

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Michał Górny]

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On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:58 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 2020-06-23 19:34, Michał Górny wrote:
> > >   and we
> > > might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that there's
> > > fewer surprises
> > 
> > Are you going to achieve that by committing more ebuilds using
> > deprecated EAPIs?
> > 
> Ah damn it must feel good to yell at people.

I'm not yelling.

> 
> I know what you mean, you know what you mean, everyone else is most 
> likely confused.
> 

I'm sorry that it wasn't clear, though I find your response really hard
to comprehend.  I'm going to clarify what I meant.

You're running for a political position.  As part of your agenda you're
indicating you'd like to see fewer EAPIs around.  As you probably know,
there's quite a few developers that are actively working towards
removing old EAPIs, and I'm one of them.  I just happen to know that
you've just committed an EAPI=5 ebuild last week, for no good reason.

So to me it seems that your actions contradict your promises.  In other
words, in my opinion you're straight lying in your manifesto.  I really
dislike this kind of attitude, so I consider it appropriate to point it
out publicly.

If you don't want your actions criticized publicly, I would suggest you
don't run for public positions.  Council positions imply responsibility
in front of all developers.  Including these you don't like.  I also
feel like it also implies being able to behave professionally in face of
criticism but this doesn't seem to be a case for a long time now.

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Best regards,
Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Fabian Groffen]

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On 23-06-2020 22:30:45 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> You're running for a political position.  As part of your agenda you're
> indicating you'd like to see fewer EAPIs around.  As you probably know,
> there's quite a few developers that are actively working towards
> removing old EAPIs, and I'm one of them.  I just happen to know that
> you've just committed an EAPI=5 ebuild last week, for no good reason.
> 
> So to me it seems that your actions contradict your promises.  In other
> words, in my opinion you're straight lying in your manifesto.  I really
> dislike this kind of attitude, so I consider it appropriate to point it
> out publicly.

This doesn't follow logic.  The claim of lying would mean Patrick
promised not to commit old EAPI-ebuilds or something.  You're actively
making him look bad, for no good reason.

Fabian

-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Patrick Lauer]

On 2020-06-23 22:30, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-06-23 at 19:58 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> On 2020-06-23 19:34, Michał Górny wrote:
>>>>    and we
>>>> might even reduce the amount of active EAPIs even more so that there's
>>>> fewer surprises
>>>
>>> Are you going to achieve that by committing more ebuilds using
>>> deprecated EAPIs?
>>>
>> Ah damn it must feel good to yell at people.
> 
> I'm not yelling.
> 
>>
>> I know what you mean, you know what you mean, everyone else is most
>> likely confused.
>>
> 
> I'm sorry that it wasn't clear, though I find your response really hard
> to comprehend.  I'm going to clarify what I meant.
> 
> You're running for a political position.
I'm trying to motivate people to vote.
The risk of getting elected is acceptable and should be enough of an 
incentive to increase voter participation.

>  As part of your agenda you're
> indicating you'd like to see fewer EAPIs around.  As you probably know,
> there's quite a few developers that are actively working towards
> removing old EAPIs, and I'm one of them.  I just happen to know that
> you've just committed an EAPI=5 ebuild last week, for no good reason.
> 
And you knowingly broke tests on a package for no reason.

So we can now spend hours talking past each others using colourful 
metaphors for our naughty bits, but that doesn't solve any problem.

> So to me it seems that your actions contradict your promises.  In other
> words, in my opinion you're straight lying in your manifesto.  I really
> dislike this kind of attitude, so I consider it appropriate to point it
> out publicly.You really like pointing at me in public.

And your phrasing is dramatic - yes there's a minor dissonance between 
my statements and one recent action. Calling that lying is a bit optimistic.

Anyway - I didn't have the motivation to spend even more time on 
something that wasn't broken before, so I didn't test if the ebuild 
works properly as EAPI7 (one of the reasons I want less EAPIs, there's 
just enough small differences to make this a nontrivial exercise)

If other people budget my time they can't complain about the quality ...

> 
> If you don't want your actions criticized publicly, I would suggest you
> don't run for public positions.  Council positions imply responsibility
> in front of all developers.  Including these you don't like.  I also
> feel like it also implies being able to behave professionally in face of
> criticism but this doesn't seem to be a case for a long time now.
> 
One of the reasons I avoid the mailinglists is the guaranteed poo 
flinging - you assume that people are like you, just slightly different, 
so your conclusion is that everyone is acting maliciously.

Would be a bit more fun if you could consider the idea that people are 
not like you.

Anyways,
may your day be as nice as you are,
have fun,
Patrick

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Matt Turner]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:52 PM Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
> If other people budget my time they can't complain about the quality ...

Yes, they absolutely can. We have, as a community, agreed-upon
standards of quality. If /you/ don't agree with those, that's your
problem and QA is within its rights to remove your commit access.

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2020 / 2021 election - Nominations Now Open

[Andreas K. Huettel]

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Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2020, 22:26:47 CEST schrieb Matt Turner:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:52 PM Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > If other people budget my time they can't complain about the quality ...
> 
> Yes, they absolutely can. We have, as a community, agreed-upon
> standards of quality. If /you/ don't agree with those, that's your
> problem and QA is within its rights to remove your commit access.

This. Thanks Matt.

-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer
(council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

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