From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-project+bounces-8869-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DA98138334 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B627E0943; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5281E093D for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from linux1.home (cpe-66-68-48-101.austin.res.rr.com [66.68.48.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: williamh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D41434644B for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (nullmailer pid 16152 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:54:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:54:31 -0500 From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] 2019 Gentoo Foundation Trustee Election & Annual General Meeting Message-ID: <20190619005431.GA16109@linux1.home> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20190616230014.GA29589@orbis-terrarum.net> <52091213f893986fd391adb5c9eade09265aecf9.camel@gentoo.org> <434521d3bf14b0f76c1974421a383a500b9aa285.camel@gentoo.org> <e4f0b10fb773e2fb4e0da87db5b5dfa9587bba27.camel@gentoo.org> <20190618192220.3e969efbb06579a01f104416@gentoo.org> <05117767177e723042fbffe83088eb375d87ecff.camel@gentoo.org> <CAAr7Pr8dpAVJpeSQJbV8qcMu_SszjNV2NPJrQpvGJe10u4UtFg@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <CAAr7Pr8dpAVJpeSQJbV8qcMu_SszjNV2NPJrQpvGJe10u4UtFg@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Archives-Salt: 0fc4e0f1-f228-48c1-bfa1-fd7035a61179 X-Archives-Hash: 0b8d02d34cb3bdb2b145a82081bc556c --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 04:30:09PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:52 PM David Seifert <soap@gentoo.org> wrote: >=20 > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 19:22 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:29:38 +0200 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 10:03 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 09:43 +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 2019-06-16 at 23:00 +0000, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > Only active Gentoo developers who are also Foundation members > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > nominated. [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nominations MUST be made by posting to > > > > > > > gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the nominated candidate must accept not later than the end of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nomination period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, let's try someone else. I nominate: > > > > > > > > > > > > David Seifert (soap) > > > > > > Mikle Kolyada (zlogene) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I'll be placing myself in harm's way and that the > > > > > IRS > > > > > will issue an arrest warrant for me because the Foundation's > > > > > finances > > > > > are a disaster? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't say. I'd presume US citizens will take care of being > > > > arrested, > > > > and we'd be protected by our nice governments. > > > > > > Be careful. Because Poland has extradiction treaty with US: > > > > > https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/99-917-Poland-Extradit= ion-Treaty-1.pdf > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Andrew Savchenko > > > > Most European countries have extradition treaties with America. I'm not > > even worried about extradition. I'm worried about traveling to America > > and then being held legally liable for tax fraud, racketeering and > > embezzlement for something I have nothing to do with. > > >=20 > I have 2 points here: >=20 > 1) When you are a director or officer you incur some liability (the > Foundation being a corporation shields you personally from some liability, > but there are obviously things that piece that shield.) If this makes you > uncomfortable, that is fine. If you don't want to hold this position > without Directors and Officers (D&O) insurance, that is also fine. >=20 > 2) Your comments seem to elude to the fact that previous (and current) > boards committed crimes. I don't believe this to be true and I'd prefer = if > you stop spreading this kind of message without some evidence. I haven't > seen evidence of criminal wrongdoing. >=20 > Again, if the liability concerns you, decline. But don't accuse the board > of being criminals. I 100% agree. Accusing the board of committing crimes is highly inappropria= te. William --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCXQmHwQAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OOVyAKCH+vCRy5Ka8FrOyfpTZ9tP1ow56gCglFjQC/HO9cDBf7CDiIpvqGuQsuo= =EuHS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK--