From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF19E138334 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66AF8E0882; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E2E4E0870 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [91.246.81.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bircoph) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B587F3410EA for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:47:20 +0300 From: Andrew Savchenko To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 Message-Id: <20190414194720.76ded9f12d7825411781df2d@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20190401032055.GA9497@linux1.home> <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> <60AF1A45-5DCF-4C0A-8907-7F47A6049462@gentoo.org> <27790972.lP4YeSZpGR@porto> <20190414182815.66b095e3466f1de88884b733@gentoo.org> <20190414154806.GE29860@monkey> <20190414191329.f4df8a3586df31d68aca2f00@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__14_Apr_2019_19_47_20_+0300_bO58L+mZ3GG4jf26" X-Archives-Salt: d0686568-e51b-4f82-9a18-508aae91e42b X-Archives-Hash: 748624ffe52917415b39e1913c4e7f33 --Signature=_Sun__14_Apr_2019_19_47_20_+0300_bO58L+mZ3GG4jf26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:41:13 +0200 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Sun, 2019-04-14 at 19:13 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 11:48:06 -0400 Aaron Bauman wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 06:28:15PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:11:50 +0200 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > > > > I support the idea of Gentoo being more inclusive. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Can we please keep irrelevant buzzwords out? > > > >=20 > > > > There is nothing irrelevant here. Gentoo is kicking people who > > > > want to contribute because doesn't want to respect their privacy > > > > because of some imaginary problems which were never appeared or > > > > tested in real life. This makes Gentoo exclusive to those who want > > > > their authorship to be public. > > > >=20 > > > > Best regards, > > > > Andrew Savchenko > > >=20 > > > Andrew, it is not imaginary. Playing the emotional game doesn't help > > > either. I am fairly certain all of those who had to make this decisi= on > > > have expressed their willingness to change it should it be supported > > > legally. It simply is not. > >=20 > > If it is not imaginary please provide a court case against Gentoo > > or other free software distribution on this matter and some > > evidence that proposed signed-off real name attribution played a > > measurable effect. > >=20 > > As far as I can see this whole story is pure speculation of: > > 1) what may happen > > 2) what will help if 1) is to happen. > >=20 > > So far I saw zero practical evidence on both points. >=20 > So to summarize, you're claiming that you're allowed to do anything > as long as the other person can't prove somebody has already been > punished for the same thing? I suppose that's a pretty interesting > concept of law. Do not twist my words. I'm asking for either a court case or an exact citation of the law which demands us to provide real names for all commits. 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