From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D72F9138334 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9498E08A2; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E32CE089C for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [91.246.81.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bircoph) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40BE53410F9 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:13:29 +0300 From: Andrew Savchenko To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 Message-Id: <20190414191329.f4df8a3586df31d68aca2f00@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20190414154806.GE29860@monkey> References: <20190401032055.GA9497@linux1.home> <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> <60AF1A45-5DCF-4C0A-8907-7F47A6049462@gentoo.org> <27790972.lP4YeSZpGR@porto> <20190414182815.66b095e3466f1de88884b733@gentoo.org> <20190414154806.GE29860@monkey> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__14_Apr_2019_19_13_29_+0300_3cBhbHt56othgoTT" X-Archives-Salt: 928d7441-688a-4048-8d95-cb5731313284 X-Archives-Hash: e2e11330a849d8481237729469396f8e --Signature=_Sun__14_Apr_2019_19_13_29_+0300_3cBhbHt56othgoTT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 11:48:06 -0400 Aaron Bauman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 06:28:15PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:11:50 +0200 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > I support the idea of Gentoo being more inclusive. > > >=20 > > > Can we please keep irrelevant buzzwords out? > >=20 > > There is nothing irrelevant here. Gentoo is kicking people who > > want to contribute because doesn't want to respect their privacy > > because of some imaginary problems which were never appeared or > > tested in real life. This makes Gentoo exclusive to those who want > > their authorship to be public. > >=20 > > Best regards, > > Andrew Savchenko >=20 > Andrew, it is not imaginary. Playing the emotional game doesn't help > either. I am fairly certain all of those who had to make this decision > have expressed their willingness to change it should it be supported > legally. It simply is not. If it is not imaginary please provide a court case against Gentoo or other free software distribution on this matter and some evidence that proposed signed-off real name attribution played a measurable effect. As far as I can see this whole story is pure speculation of: 1) what may happen 2) what will help if 1) is to happen. So far I saw zero practical evidence on both points. > If you believe it is supported legally then please provide such > evidence. This decision was not arrived at lightly and I am confident > enough to state that on behalf of both bodies involved. I see no evidence that we have a mandatory legal requirement to put real names under commit attributions in the first place.=20 Best regards, Andrew Savchenko --Signature=_Sun__14_Apr_2019_19_13_29_+0300_3cBhbHt56othgoTT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE63ZIHsdeM+1XgNer9lNaM7oe5I0FAlyzXCkACgkQ9lNaM7oe 5I2YsRAAnqLfW/J03vwo+XzWdSOljECOFq+ZpiyP3Drj7OZAEvQNvwqPhYrwM/Ag FoEpsDwr3Z6qIJImyRaY7bn9KsBRpGUev28McmiSLiHjHEaepYti3ravd9ely+Zc djoWYcH0GPu80de4ZFdt1czNm86M6w5qfRolEhjL3jax3dsg9P7WQVKDEqttfE+m TI+M6jHa+AvWF5WIxTYHPc1xB5YLvpusQeppTCc/uU3X2PMFe9TB4ZIMA0ZmcL03 g5Yz6STx0JEocHHe7tHQwenwiEMx3eKUt8fQm2uyg9nDpQHfOeJE437Vy8DUeIGV IRy3eV6/Ys15VhyP4XXa17h5SrsJ7tNlI5xpxEVRV2BuY6jl+V1NIYKx/0C2WaGi zYYSe2d4hvRgqUx9Pwm3VezzZV4l4iZn3Lcpo7AXfpVTgxS55AxgyPhr8t+U/YDw 05lt2D8y0NPqrbUNXM7LfaSIh1mJAh78npiATYcKKmYc0AemZPZIV9SyJ80KpH9e ERdSr5zxJmzX8pQ2i0OUhPlaSor37QDLF1dkWrs6fzLd1+B2xG+XH558pBWKb4i7 uxKYAjytuA8qGW26qDPUUjZhzpAPxeN+zsvTTd0h1jcZRamTFdmys6NUeDhxG+UE KzpzvIunmbn2mj+sdnsxZzsG/QMX23lcMIJ/CFT1b8QfFtPjzYI= =yp98 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__14_Apr_2019_19_13_29_+0300_3cBhbHt56othgoTT--