From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49853138334 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BF0E088B; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9E6EE0884 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pool-72-66-49-205.washdc.east.verizon.net [72.66.49.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bman) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88299340C6C for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:36:03 -0400 From: Aaron Bauman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 Message-ID: <20190410223603.GL8129@monkey> References: <5e30d658-80c8-b608-1505-dc08db3625bf@gentoo.org> <20190403174315.32615d3b9574571e3ed4a399@gentoo.org> <80ed2e482e96c96555bf4fd9331731c4c9ad0d7f.camel@gentoo.org> <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> <20190410062712.jvgec4vhpvvo2e6v@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pFej7zHSL6C5fFIz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Archives-Salt: f0627bc8-81f0-4ff0-a9d9-d2147db8ead2 X-Archives-Hash: 297cb5f1bae968ba42bdce4a2139e0c7 --pFej7zHSL6C5fFIz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 09:28:07AM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 15:27 +0900, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: > > The 04/10/2019 07:59, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >=20 > > I propose foundation to vote for add the use of pseudonym in the GLEP 7= 6. > > For keeping Gentoo a confortable and inclusive place. > >=20 >=20 > If Foundation decides to arbitrarily change a policy that's been > initially approved both by Council and Foundation, then I propose that > the Council rejects changes to the policy and blocks such contributions. > =20 > Furthermore, I will propose that we actively pursue removing Foundation > from Gentoo as apparently Trustees once again are trying to abuse > the power that they've only gotten because nobody else wanted to take > legal risk from negligence of previous Boards. >=20 > --=20 > Best regards, > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny >=20 I don't know why there is so much animosity towards the foundation from you. No one said we would change the policy. Given the past record of both bodies working together... it is shallow to think we would do so anyway. Can we just stop the stupidity? I, personally, would just like to do the job of a trustee and support the distribution. You know, let the council handle the technical things and let the foundation do the legal and money... We get it... many don't want the Foundation. Regardless, some body will step in anyway and implement the same sets of rules. As mentioned many times on this thread... there is precedent against allowing pseudonyms. Furthermore, anyone who has said otherwise has yet to produce real world use cases of such a thing being allowed. The exception (which I have validated) is Debian. Of course, the person still needs to "reveal" themselves to the legal entity. Of course, I don't think this will stand in a court of law anyhow. Let's all just work together and perform our individual functions. --=20 Cheers, Aaron --pFej7zHSL6C5fFIz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEiDRK3jyVBE/RkymqpRQw84X1dt0FAlyub9IACgkQpRQw84X1 dt34kwf+JBsXIbryTDolZuhO0V29Reba93mHbBkgLb21pua4b3UYKOoCt11aS1v+ 099WUL4UGmtf1nOYpZpoZM468/ir06bQ+BJx7gvbv/CnAhg2PiQZgH6a5G1C+3Yn vp3fgsBcV9xJaKGd92KvV8TvxxygOGA0lnWrdJcjvYH9g0jKd8klgJMTlT7YQR5t Df9hQ0eSjKMeZLMfyoYqYu9HbYYj1bFKxIm9x/q2V6moQKXVZBfkFRetstHy8ZQB LY+qE+rXscxq5Mjpm1QFFl7vBSgdepc7ELPSgUL6XHbFJqBBLbFIhl93je2yeN5h pW+mVj/54b0L2/N0QmYtcrsgyUf9KA== =fgxr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pFej7zHSL6C5fFIz--