From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0AD2138334 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A721E098A; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 432F4E0986 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pool-72-66-49-205.washdc.east.verizon.net [72.66.49.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bman) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82F34335C30 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 22:07:46 -0400 From: Aaron Bauman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 Message-ID: <20190410020746.GK8129@monkey> References: <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> <465cf0eb-3323-d71f-e6a7-862f0940f54b@iee.org> <9b6b02c8-bc96-6e5d-d99a-56e9290479b0@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Archives-Salt: bca2f91a-a308-47db-8d07-0f021181206d X-Archives-Hash: 60c305718820d92d215b9f28b66f1e38 --8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 09:58:39PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/9/19 6:49 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: > >=20 > > (Picking one thread to reply to, but this applies to the discussion as = a=20 > > whole) > >=20 >=20 > Same. This is a tough one. >=20 > I don't care much at all about the copyright angle. Copyright has always > been a fundamentally inconsistent concept. We all violate copyright law > millions of times a day, and there's no way to avoid that in modern > society. This campaign is simply doing what everyone else does in that > regard: pretend we give a shit, so people don't see us as heretics. The > fact that we've gotten ourselves into a logical pickle here is not > unexpected given that we're trying to play a game that doesn't make any > sense. I'll sleep fine either way. >=20 > What I do care about is that ultimately the only form of trust our users > have is based on our reputations. I'm a real person: you can search for > my name, find out where I work, who my friends are, call my girlfriend > and tell her I suck. That's *not* what's keeping me from committing a > backdoor to Gentoo. But that *is* why you trust me not to do it. I have > a few simplified-to-the-point-of-absurdity computer security rules, one > of which goes like "don't run code from anyone you can't find and punch > in the face." To that end, not having a real identity associated with a > developer account is troubling. >=20 > But, of course, I like having our pseudonymous contributors around > fixing stuff too. >=20 >=20 We all violate laws everyday too, but that doesn't mean the cop won't stop you for speeding and then do the same when he is off duty. It is a crazy world we live in. --=20 Cheers, Aaron --8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEiDRK3jyVBE/RkymqpRQw84X1dt0FAlytT/EACgkQpRQw84X1 dt1rFwf8DX3dlV3GnJSwhrX7XoVTRQoaNY7OUGxilpqKAkUN9XuRjYNRZPmctcWz JYTK+uHJQDbtS8YfVXss4+VOkQeHx6PVgXrD1gJIGNpclt00K4fAzxhyT1KZixTH fkbqYSTBWdvHUNjNxH7RJJpzDcWnlppXX9hzIY3ZhD40DHbwbxEGKRTVNjXwZZ0Z yWZaNeOTYo80QnrotEb4Qmq0qv8cS5q0xqUZ2ldunTx2B4dCue6yxo2pMyl0upqG E7dLhvqSTLM8xV0BXcTuZ1UsHRZln69yiLI2W/QealsEenIDruQ06JqtpsmxzcrM wdrccFS9UjJzGb5bBZi2OSx+2xplJw== =MouP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0--