From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FFC9138334 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FF5DE0B46; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA340E0A5E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id q70so15930073qkh.6 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:50:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=5VOd/jTARsYoPG2ytRL+aCnMRevRJthfeH6idnDj7WU=; b=FK7jiLby0cyKqIi++Ak0PasPUxbjK6cwme7aSakB7OPUcZM/kSN6EjwzWiFIuwAp+C siQBhQH+PmtCCiDBbpdF0qN8miUvKKMdb/n+vKyFAk+ixWxFllkzposkeDx7pfsd/sfO 3hfkwfevi1fBWnqLmpwAL0PUF48uJf6PupU7iPa70g3Z1vpid4S8g/28sqg5JY+tyAMp RTW48vbEJHPjeEZzU+QbcEA1xG6ODwGLUQZAmWffAcx2soH/bNHGaZJtbmqDY5LOi9FA addbTv+s4qfQsu128n/k0xNXLpNAo/riZTRQ28lTQwmbHUO6qnIQWJEyRujhQQO2ErYz vRbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=5VOd/jTARsYoPG2ytRL+aCnMRevRJthfeH6idnDj7WU=; b=VVRBnsD9uDIQX3y6LtFu6jsBHiJHlydSgMShrKHoSk8AY7lHBZkgQVppKryoSs5fQP 2HZqqBWZ+8pYkDoIp4rom5945wpMdMi8owZcqk7Wc4eF9q4KiO5yIq4sOpOlvpYOYPzF C9ZBSCKkw2Q+dWL8IjTKAbMURLPPeM5ESkV46ia97LcOAxAf10PjcDSIuzVIqO4Od8lf IA1Ovh7NzTWFEFf7crgFY0T4oSJigXyBpv8iMCrO+w+E3eFaTE2NR1XS8haS8RBzgFxM 4R06ZGq3Kdm4NKSo71xkIkkqlAWAX4eusAljLXpcSxRpBysvewAOHK+o7C8BFobtZH14 lviw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gK73S3hsGfQxQbk5rXFUlBnG8Q7NWy30kpLati5Z11GJZCCA3bg g981HalyM1aBZG9sBCndMdvGF6L3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5f4XnoU9gV54rESuaOUXrtXZxjHVws3GhyY5dcm9WklMGL2R9ZeIs0eKJVt/jUYFJ8tU6sFfg== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2276:: with SMTP id p51mr7356082qtp.200.1542307806221; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from whubbs1.gaikai.biz ([100.42.103.5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c45sm19088509qte.66.2018.11.15.10.50.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:50:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: William Hubbs Received: (nullmailer pid 26708 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:50:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:50:03 -0600 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ulm@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications Message-ID: <20181115185003.GA26382@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, ulm@gentoo.org References: <20181113183242.GA26771@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <20181114024643.GA15537@linux1.home> <20181114114739.23491a58@scorpius> <20181115153537.GB18539@linux1.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Archives-Salt: eaac2ff9-ef82-4ffe-a93c-73c8b7ec18ac X-Archives-Hash: 87402f9f78c3a783a7858be3664bb53f --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 06:50:52PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > | * Notice identifies the copyright owner at the time the work was first > | published for parties seeking permission to use the work. > | * Notice identifies the year of first publication, which may be used > | to determine the term of copyright protection in the case of an > | anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire. > | * Notice may prevent the work from becoming an orphan work by > | identifying the copyright owner and specifying the term of the > | copyright. >=20 > For "indentifying the copyright owner" nothing short of a complete list > will suffice. Especially, a notice like the following (which mentions > only "Gentoo Authors" and "Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc.") does > not help with that at all (i.e., it is no better than the simplified > notice): > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-cluster/ceph/ceph-13.2= =2E2-r2.ebuild?id=3D5f77c21f23bf1c4cfb9e68be7aa27669c8146e8e#n1 Remember that in the US, SIE is a legal entity, so it can hold copyrights, just like a person can. It is like "Gentoo Foundation, Inc." So, there would be two contributors in that ebuild: "Gentoo Authors" and SIE. > Besides, these last three items are pretty much moot for a work released > under the GPL-2 (which grants "permission to use"), and I think that > even you aren't suggesting that we should go for a complete list of > contributors. You are right, I'm not advocating for a complete list of contributors. I'm just advocating for flexability where contributors want it, and SIE is one of those contributors that wants it. William --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCW+2/0QAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OPhyAKCDE9gU7an9+7YQJ0aoGSDmgmmObQCfeusY9Vy/ftTaVhG7kKWApwQxW2U= =KTE0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua--