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From: Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 07:51:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181115075131.7e18d3f9@professor-x> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_nuFPFd2koHEqhvKBH_MripD6HzwfpgwYnguT8=Z-q-fQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:31:02 -0800
Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:

> 
> Also, this doesn't seem to have been a problem in the past, and yet
> our policy was far less free then.
> 
...
> 
> We've done just fine for going on 20 years not allowing any notice
> other than "Copyright xxx Gentoo Foundation."  Now we open things up a
> tiny bit and suddenly everybody and their uncle is saying that their
> employers won't let them contribute code unless they stick their
> company name in there.  What have they been doing for the last decade?
> 

Just like Gentoo's policies, things change in corporate environments.

Where things have been fine contirubting without the attribution in the
past.  The new attribution requirement is due to Gentoo changing
things with the copyright.  With that change meant that the new "Gentoo"
change had to be run by the "new" corporate management structure.  That
result came back that the contributions now require the SIE
attribution.

Why is that so hard to understand...  

If you didn't push for the copyright change in Gentoo, then the new
policy wouldn't have had to be run past the "new bigger" corporate
lawyers...   and the status quo would not have changed...  we wouldn't
be having this run-on rant/bikeshed/waste of everyone's time/...
typical endless mail list thread which just makes even more current or
future developers want to quit/withdraw their application/add another
tick to the con column about becoming a Gentoo dev.

What you are calling abuse (Not just Rich0, anyone with that opinion)
is just a consequence of the new GLEP and it's text.  Get over it. 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-15 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-13 18:32 [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications William Hubbs
2018-11-13 18:47 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-11-14  2:17 ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14  2:46   ` William Hubbs
2018-11-14  7:18     ` Sarah White
2018-11-14 15:58       ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 19:38         ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-14 23:23           ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-15  0:00             ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-15 15:03               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-15 15:28                 ` William Hubbs
2018-11-15 15:52                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2018-11-14  8:24     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-14  8:28       ` Raymond Jennings
2018-11-14 19:47       ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-14 20:09         ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-15 13:38           ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-11-15 22:25             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-11-15  6:49         ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-15 15:35           ` William Hubbs
2018-11-15 17:50             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-15 18:50               ` William Hubbs
2018-11-15 21:31                 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-11-15 21:56                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-16  9:16                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-14 15:50     ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 14:45       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-14 15:24         ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 15:53           ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-23 19:21             ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 19:46               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-23 20:23                 ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 20:25                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2018-11-23 20:40                     ` Sarah White
2018-11-24 17:47                       ` William Hubbs
2018-11-24 18:15                         ` Sarah White
2018-11-24 19:41                         ` Alec Warner
2018-11-24 20:12                           ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-24 20:32                             ` Alec Warner
2018-11-24 21:21                               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-26 12:01                               ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-26 13:36                                 ` Alec Warner
2018-11-25 20:36                             ` Matt Turner
2018-11-25 20:52                               ` William Hubbs
2018-11-25 22:58                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-24 23:11                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-25  1:09                             ` Sarah White
2018-11-25  1:37                               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-25  2:04                                 ` Sarah White
2018-11-25  2:22                                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-25  3:21                                     ` Sarah White
2018-11-25  6:53                                     ` Joonas Niilola
2018-11-25  2:04                         ` Matt Turner
2018-11-26 15:20                           ` William Hubbs
2018-11-26 23:12                             ` William Hubbs
2018-11-27  0:05                               ` Raymond Jennings
2018-11-27  2:38                               ` Matt Turner
2018-11-27  4:51                                 ` William Hubbs
2018-11-27  6:20                                   ` Matt Turner
2018-11-23 20:42                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-23 20:51                     ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 21:11                       ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-24 17:49                         ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 20:57                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 14:36   ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-14 15:31     ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 16:19       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-14 18:59       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2018-11-14 19:38         ` William Hubbs
2018-11-14 20:02         ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-14 20:11           ` M. J. Everitt
2018-11-15 13:16         ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-11-15 15:51       ` Brian Dolbec [this message]
2018-11-15 16:25         ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-11-15 16:47           ` William Hubbs

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