Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29

[Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org>]

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:50:00 +0200
Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:

> >>>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, Brian Dolbec wrote:  
> 
> > I would like the council to put an end to the current "moving
> > default location of portage tree" bikeshed thread by making the
> > decision of our new defaults.  
> 
> I think we should have proposal ready for vote at the council meeting,
> because I don't expect that discussion of individual paths during the
> meeting would lead to anything.
> 
> > This includes:
> > 	- main "gentoo" ebuild tree
> > 	- distfiles
> > 	- packages  
> 
> Trying to summarise the discussion in -dev, and in #-portage: Everyone
> seems to agree that all of these should be somewhere under /var, and
> possible candidates are /var/lib, /var/cache, and /var/db. Note that
> /var/db is not specified by the FHS, but it exists in all the BSDs.
> Also, I am disregarding suggestions like /var/gentoo or /var/portage
> for now.
> 
> For both /var/lib and /var/cache the FHS requires a <package>
> subdirectory. Unless we want this to be "portage", we could use
> "package-manager" (since virtual/package-manager is a package),
> or pretend that "pm" is an alias for it. This would lead us to the
> following paths, respectively:
> 
>    /var/lib/{package-manager,pm}/gentoo
>    /var/cache/{package-manager,pm}/distfiles
>    /var/cache/{package-manager,pm}/packages
>

I think it is a mistake to group distfiles and packages directly
beside the repositories.  

One of the big reasons I feel this way, is so that configuration can be
made more plugin friendly.  With all repositories under one subdir. It
could be possible for a package manager to scan the subdir for
repositories.  Details of repo configuration data may be included in the
repository.  This could eliminate the need for a
/etc/portage/repos.conf. Or at the very least, eliminate the need to
specify location if it is in the default base path. (just food for
thought)

 If under the same /var/lib/pm, then the
repositories should be in it's own "repos" subdir still for the above
mentioned reasons, just like the example  below for /var/db/.   If that
puts more weight on the /var/db prefix due to FHS..., then that is
fine, it just happens to be my configuration already ;)


> Alternatively, we could place either the gentoo tree, or all three of
> the above under /var/db (which doesn't follow the FHS, so no subdir
> requirement):
> 
>    /var/db/repos/gentoo
>    /var/db/distfiles
>    /var/db/packages
> 
> > 	- snapshot name  
> 
> Simply gentoo-20180712.tar.xz instead of portage-20180712.tar.xz?
> Or is that not specific enough?
> 
> Ulrich

snapshot name is good and follows the repo naming convention. :)


Which ever of the above locations that becomes the default, I would
change layman to the new default repos location as well.


-- 
Brian Dolbec <dolsen>


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