From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68C41138334 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54DA0E0928; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x243.google.com (mail-oi0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AD88E0924 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-x243.google.com with SMTP id l22-v6so15225510oib.4 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:33:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=f5MUcvQUL9mvIB2RBsNbUQqnASFVmPlHqGCCd5Smj1M=; b=RqD6L8e/nz1jvOy6DwdK+JJbI641mo8cpFRkbx62SHJ9rgcQHnyBKKwjq+Iz0Pe84G 8xNAoRg6CuHuo7Es3KVIW4s9EuD76lUEpXXf1z0pbXU9BSalx/8UJRIZ18HPFHan+FqZ HonwyKvvdQr5e9qZUGf/gmm9nYpHuscHjIW/xvsVjKRBqUtzZByH4ZvEXhxgfjX3Ke0Z Edwwj05jwNJpVbH3hQygLJn2uI3v18CfRwyaFpIfHSPQ9BW11Y0YoadHMfr1B1Y5VgEX oz5gbwDYg6ThOmveWKcVA2FMLsRGkj69oAbWkEfZRq8XOy8qe8EDm+mB1sF499TjZbyP 8pJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=f5MUcvQUL9mvIB2RBsNbUQqnASFVmPlHqGCCd5Smj1M=; b=GyU0SAI1eXiC0Hud9gXdXlp5q74zqtWLxt/fmdVS4iiGOb7w4n2Y+pK7E4C18QYzuV qDT9AQ6nW/FiSRb0pY2ecojQwG2aqt9sHFSLDETNHY3fTqRfxZGn1P3CT94dvsmoyLDP lg5aOFq8slKu2yiz5ketPotmhDFF6/1f7uylEsAgBhxifUbfs557Klpqe4fEum0EbCWZ SQcggtp2gGljIsgBEW4T7yAv1242p+IAkj2SfKYmzFjDleaGdC7/fe+LVMwMoaU9siIH 9EUxT4HJxQB2E48CkPfPHI01nCaDU3dKyhPkpj9F3BnYcT3mcrg4Mr7ZdUoASZn6zknM qQZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3XyvATBJrC/Xgs2RWO3xSXekgadFAqQ9eqeYz2KMyWjpUMK4xl aDqQH2Ki9NnYbixu6IB1ZkQFRQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLFuAl+TRItQVEyNcvhYl6WKhjeLzRaI5fyOR5Z7THzcjmNgAnGPr0skj4KkFz8cuTed12w0Q== X-Received: by 2002:aca:a50:: with SMTP id 77-v6mr6688368oik.255.1529335985915; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whubbs1.gaikai.biz ([100.42.103.5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o55-v6sm9705820otb.51.2018.06.18.08.33.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: (nullmailer pid 16252 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:33:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:33:04 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: rich0@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] William Hubbs council manifesto 2018-2019 Message-ID: <20180618153304.GA16212@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, rich0@gentoo.org References: <7aff3272-74c2-c5ed-92d8-fb1b4baa1eba@iee.org> <5fd69b7e-abf6-dfef-afe7-39402b8b0c68@iee.org> <20180617172604.GA6560@linux1.home> <47901881-4bac-6638-d702-bfb42cfe32c4@iee.org> <20180617203438.GA9809@linux1.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Archives-Salt: be11bc2c-62f0-4910-9a02-9d6e4278dda6 X-Archives-Hash: 3380d4f9c2382bc98d605f4caa3419b3 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 07:48:08PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 4:34 PM William Hubbs wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 02:23:02PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:15 PM, M. J. Everitt = wrote: > > > > > > > On 17/06/18 19:07, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > > > > > I really don't think this is true. Its explicitly not true for me. = I was a > > > > trustee because there were open slots and someone had to 'keep the = lights > > > > on.' > > > > Other people who ran for the board have expressed similar sentiment= s. I am > > > > running again in the next election on a platform of dissolution (cl= osing > > > > the foundation) which is again contrary to your argument. There is = no point > > > > in continuing to run a non-profit that continues to nominally accru= e risk > > > > with little or no upside. Eventually it will become so toxic that y= ou will > > > > be unable to find anyone to run it (some may say this has already b= egun to > > > > happen.) This is evident partially by the board's reduction in numb= ers. > > > > Previously the board had 13 seats, then 7, then 5. I'm not superbly > > > > confident we will be able to fill 5 seats in the next election. > > > > Rich, this argument makes no sense. >=20 > I didn't write that. I suspect that somewhere along the way somebody > messed up their quoting. That said, I largely agree with the point > being made (I believe by Alec). >=20 > (And to be fair, you did as well in your reply by not trimming the > rest of the email below your last comment...) :) Yes, I basically agree with Alec. What I meant to say makes no sense was your commentary above, which got deleted from this some how, about selection bias. That seems to be true for any elected position -- you have people running for the position who are interested in having the job. :-) William --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCWyfQqgAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OIC6AJ9flX1pSq/AVblF7jCI2NTSpcstiQCfd/5jJjWWYW9YGcL9YAOk+M8EVn4= =yo8U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8--