From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B4FD138334 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 769F2E0825; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x243.google.com (mail-oi0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29A51E0824 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-x243.google.com with SMTP id l22-v6so3630891oib.4 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=NH3dqZ5qYmi5tbUgXHF8yeB4JBtisCKMVFMhq9KNueA=; b=tLn3XZV5TsuR1wOGGZBoTZO4CgF9iZyOCT6HXJOWLPvbP/hb81kxvNk92gHGzUANbx NnFBG9ebq0GLeyquTNl0WqtI9YnDamOLtgRejdhil9tqec5OX9kjS1q/Hb9YODEvErin 586ctpfxuXt3ts98AoorjZr3wcxivIycbGE7NAcEoRF4VqaJqW2L6uZht0Dd+mAXtkau eb6mw5tQWLTfVw6eoGfL3QozLvu3SsSx71NAXkR6dvUNYjqJsh1KfsW+8p0pq3S3PE6B kiHI0Tteq/yugOa0SaoAHVW4EIGSQv0XEvC7/CtZ/T8RBmXmn9lPoU5YXVnzxw4IVKhX 1rTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=NH3dqZ5qYmi5tbUgXHF8yeB4JBtisCKMVFMhq9KNueA=; b=S2GsY2GQvl0LKzLzpQW9R4JUX2fLUYEdgBwEGh/XvvgwYAeAK9rPM1FX0vRZiGexpM AAEG640AxlG0ALn4mb2qxYVKjDF3lFLdAwIuEdCePUKSLCejccw/a9h+dX2phgl3Q57M 1zE5Zc0YCm6EIH+9gsioxaZ3YzzOyr1UXDCNErZ7T7HZauH/K2vR/xkdc3xzi2LRyK56 26y3YV2/gCkW0IdVdGeQRwh1yjq1dGFuJWmlU2JZ+FlPq6UcQWlYuyt0xiRLAtxVucna ygBU1X7Je8dTqKUyf6FHlGFYRKAZfkndlGeGdjWXNL1wYJ9aLGj2kS4EZHE7770qx5cL Q9ag== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1KuaN60T+alUOAp8ktvNvljuhGrwAdstOIKlECiwy6uc6vOrta nnYYw1WeIz/5HYIUDILwlyjetg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKIITgcUiFQqZbfhvlpS5XzbKpQe2fhaYIGuEkRXCHmcfBIYE741Q+IQqemKfa3roxoMZfaDQ== X-Received: by 2002:aca:5693:: with SMTP id k141-v6mr4983069oib.194.1528922676963; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whubbs1.gaikai.biz ([100.42.103.5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f97-v6sm1689514otb.9.2018.06.13.13.44.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: (nullmailer pid 32521 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:44:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:44:35 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy Message-ID: <20180613204435.GA32488@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <23325.35685.793702.267278@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <23326.45334.989265.824533@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <23329.32756.67705.194518@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <23329.32756.67705.194518@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Archives-Salt: 2cfe31c1-cd20-465c-8aab-a24c8bda0e6d X-Archives-Hash: 4a14f5052f11fa0828a67deae583f739 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:35:00PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >=20 > > [...] Explicitly listing only one copyright holder in the copyright > > line looks like the simplest possible solution. Listing nobody would > > be even simpler, but I think that you cannot have a copyright line > > without at least one entity. >=20 > Actually, the simplest solution would be not to have any copyright > notice at all. It it optional, and copyright protection still holds > without it. I was checking into this yesterday, and yes this is true. I would personally be fine with not requiring copyright notices. > > Also note that the exercise is _not_ about giving credit to authors > > (and we currently don't do that with the Foundation copyright > > either). The purpose of the copyright notice is to make a statement > > that the work is copyrighted, in order to defeat a possible defense > > of "innocent infringement". >=20 > The following was brought up by rich0 in #gentoo-council: Do we care > about the "innocent infringement" defense? That is, would we actually > sue anybody to obtain "statutory damages" for past infringements of > our copyright, or would our goal be to bring them into compliance in > the future? >=20 > If it is only the latter, we may well omit the copyright line from > ebuilds, and keep only the GPL-2 license notice. That would save us > all the hassle of keeping track of the main contributor. (Of course, > we would have to determine the main contributors when we were to > pursue an infringement. But presumably, we would have to verify the > accuracy of the copyright line in any case.) The contributors can be found via "git log" or "git blame", so it isn't that hard to determine who they are. >=20 > Disclaimer: IANAL, TINLA. >=20 > Ulrich William --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCWyGCLgAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OA5jAJ9Fyl9oFdKQEA2gR7h4q4Y3jLeg8ACgilUd9BFxE7yUoAYDojo4hj1adKE= =ug3C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g--