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From: Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:52:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180409155204.di2ja5rrtw7ldbtq@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_=gnw96h3y-xLePKi0vG8eJVz=W61bqqGU08TgQd_V6UA@mail.gmail.com>

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On 18-04-09 11:36:11, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to apologize for this harmful generalization. Not all
> > Trustees in the history of Foundation were incompetent. In particular,
> > it is worth noting that Robin H. Johnson has put a significant effort
> > in improving the tax situation, and Daniel Campbell had his contribution
> > too.
> >
> 
> Honestly, I think would be helpful if everybody tries to
> de-personalize this discussion.
> 
> I think it makes the most sense to figure out what kind of
> meta-structure we want, without regard to the titles individuals are
> currently holding.  We can always hold an election to re-sort people
> (old or new) into the new roles (IMO this should be done if we make
> any major changes, precisely because we DON'T want to design roles
> with named individuals in mind).
> 

It's with this in mind that I've made my current (and previous)
proposals.

> I think the question should be what kind of design is sustainable.
> 
> I do think that the skills we have to work with should be fair game in
> a discussion.  We're mostly programmers/sysadmins/enthusiasts, and
> lawyers are pretty rare in the community.  I do think that our
> metastructure would benefit from emphasizing the skills our community
> actually has.  We could also hire in skills we don't have, and I don't
> have an issue with that, but again in that case we need to be mindful
> of our current cash flow.  It doesn't make sense to adopt the
> metastructure appropriate for a company with a $50M annual budget when
> we operate on a small fraction of this.
> 
> However, all of this can be done without smearing those serving in
> various roles today.  IMO most genuinely are trying to do what they
> think is best for the distro, and I doubt most would have been elected
> if a lot of people didn't share that sentiment.
> 

My proposal does not preclude moving under an umbrella org (I think it
makes it easier actually).

-- 
Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-09 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-03  1:46 [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08 Matthias Maier
2018-04-03  5:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-04-03 13:19 ` Matthias Maier
2018-04-06  2:15   ` William Hubbs
2018-04-06  2:39     ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-06 11:43       ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-06 15:29         ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-06 19:46         ` David Abbott
2018-04-06 20:44           ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-06 20:53             ` M. J. Everitt
2018-04-07 13:02             ` Alexis Ballier
2018-04-07 14:16               ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-07 14:43                 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-04-07 15:10                 ` Alexis Ballier
2018-04-07 16:44                 ` R0b0t1
2018-04-07 18:37                 ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07 19:01                   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-07 19:07                     ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07 19:15                       ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-07 19:21                         ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07 14:54               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-07 15:16                 ` Alexis Ballier
2018-04-07 15:42                   ` Alexis Ballier
2018-04-07 18:39                   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-06 22:16           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-06 22:27             ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07  6:39               ` Michał Górny
2018-04-07 18:18                 ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07 18:32                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-07 18:41                     ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-09 15:29                 ` Michał Górny
2018-04-09 15:36                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-09 15:52                     ` Matthew Thode [this message]
2018-04-07 19:33 ` Matt Turner
2018-04-07 19:43   ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07 19:55   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-07 20:01     ` M. J. Everitt
2018-04-07 20:01     ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-07 20:04       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-07 20:08         ` Alec Warner
2018-04-07 20:16           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-07 21:13           ` Michał Górny
2018-04-07 21:23             ` M. J. Everitt
2018-04-07 21:55             ` Matthew Thode

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