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From: zlg <zlg@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Foundation meeting agenda for April 2018
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:39:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180409043922.GC29309@clocktown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180408234201.bb047370d97e4b6d73594d5d@hardcoded.net>

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On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 11:42:01PM -0400, Virgil Dupras wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:29:27 -0700
> zlg <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > Why should a group -- who holds no legal, social, or practical
> > responsibility -- be trusted to lead the efforts of an organization?
> 
> Since Gentoo's CoC is strongly based on Debian, maybe we could look at Debian's constitution for clues on this and ask ourselves why it says in section 9 [1]:
> 
> > An organisation holding assets for Debian has no authority regarding
> > Debian's technical or nontechnical decisions, except that no decision
> > by Debian with respect to any property held by the organisation shall
> > require it to act outside its legal authority.
> 
> Maybe that this type of separation of concerns worked well for them? Maybe it can work well for Gentoo?
> 
> Regards,
> Virgil Dupras
> 
> [1] https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution#item-9
> 

Separating concerns may work, but not without a real, legally binding
contract that both parties consent to and abide by. Otherwise, the
Foundation takes on all the legal and financial risk and gets nothing
for it.

An affirmation from the two parties is not a binding contract. I would
support one if it was equitable and enforceable, i.e. not GLEP 39. If
the relationship is reduced to business, then the Council should offer
something in return.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-09  4:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-08 20:27 [gentoo-project] Foundation meeting agenda for April 2018 Matthew Thode
2018-04-08 20:43 ` Matthias Maier
2018-04-08 20:48   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-09  0:11   ` zlg
2018-04-09  0:14     ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-09  1:06     ` Matthias Maier
2018-04-09  1:38       ` Alec Warner
2018-04-09  4:10         ` William Hubbs
2018-04-09 11:11         ` Luca Barbato
2018-04-09  3:29       ` zlg
2018-04-09  3:42         ` Virgil Dupras
2018-04-09  4:39           ` zlg [this message]
2018-04-09  5:47             ` Michał Górny
2018-04-09  6:28               ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-04-09 14:12                 ` William Hubbs
2018-04-09  7:17         ` Matthias Maier
2018-04-09  7:50           ` zlg
2018-04-09 12:38         ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-09  8:23     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-04-09  9:56       ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-09 11:36         ` Luca Barbato
2018-04-09 15:44           ` Matthew Thode
2018-04-09 12:01     ` Alexis Ballier
2018-04-09  6:12   ` Michał Górny
2018-04-09  4:25 ` Alec Warner
2018-04-09 15:53 ` Matthias Maier

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