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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:42:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180211224234.GB6747@linux1.home> (raw)


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Hi all,

The council can't make this change since it is a glep 39 change, so I am
bringing it to the community for discussion -- I assume there would need
to be a full dev vote to make it happen.

I feel that council members should not be members of projects whose
actions can be appealed to the council like qa or comrel. I have felt
this way for a long time, because I think it compromises the full
council's ability to vote fairly on appeals.

As a member of the council who would be affected by this, if it passes
and I run and am elected to council again, I would have no problem with
stepping down from QA.

Attached is a patch for glep 39 which will make this change.

Thoughts?

William


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diff --git a/glep-0039.rst b/glep-0039.rst
index c458450..d3e71df 100644
--- a/glep-0039.rst
+++ b/glep-0039.rst
@@ -155,6 +155,11 @@ B. Global issues will be decided by an elected Gentoo council.
       election for *all* places must be held within a month. The 'one year'
       is then reset from that point.
    *  Disciplinary actions may be appealed to the council.
+   *  A council member must not concurrently be a member of a project
+     whose actions can be appealed to the council such as QA or Comrel.
+     Members of these projects may run for council under the
+     understanding that if they are elected they will be removed from
+     these projects until they leave the council.
    *  A proxy must not be an existing council member, and any single person
       may not be a proxy for more than one council member at any given
       meeting.
@@ -204,6 +209,10 @@ So, does this proposal solve any of the previously-mentioned problems?
 
 8. This proposal has nothing to say about GLEPs.
 
+9. If council members are also members of projects whose actions can
+   be appealed to the council, the full council cannot vote fairly on
+   appeals from those projects.
+
 References
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             reply	other threads:[~2018-02-11 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-11 22:42 William Hubbs [this message]
2018-02-11 23:20 ` [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals Rich Freeman
2018-02-12  0:12   ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12  0:29     ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12  2:16       ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12  2:29         ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13  2:52           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-12  8:19 ` Fabian Groffen
2018-02-12  8:58 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-12 19:14   ` Michał Górny
2018-02-12 19:36   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-02-12 23:02     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-12 23:40       ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  0:13         ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13  0:16           ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  0:18             ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  0:25           ` Roy Bamford
2018-02-13  1:21             ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13  0:39   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-13  0:57     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-13  4:59     ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-13  5:06       ` M. J. Everitt
     [not found]       ` <f4781100-3fa2-170f-c388-d53f353bf914@gentoo.org>
2018-02-13 20:56         ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
     [not found]         ` <23171.27241.311990.19309@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
2018-02-14  0:33           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-12 15:53 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 16:10   ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-12 16:55   ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12 17:03     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 17:46       ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 17:58         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 18:34           ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 18:40             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 18:52               ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 19:05                 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 19:17                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 13:43                     ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 13:51                       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-02-13 14:41                         ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 14:49                           ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-02-13  4:58     ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-13  5:02       ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13  5:51         ` Alec Warner
2018-02-13  6:36           ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-02-13 10:23           ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 13:59             ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 20:56               ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 15:21             ` Alec Warner
2018-02-14  5:15           ` Dean Stephens
     [not found]       ` <a1ec3099-11d7-a779-c9c8-a17bbe1d753e@gentoo.org>
     [not found]         ` <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-02-13 21:12           ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-14  5:16             ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-12 18:54 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-02-13  2:43 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-13  4:09   ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-13 23:21 ` Alexis Ballier
2018-02-14  5:53   ` Michał Górny
2018-02-14  6:01     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-14  6:44     ` R0b0t1
2018-02-14  7:22     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-14  7:29       ` Michał Górny
2018-02-14  6:19 ` Mike Gilbert
2018-02-15 20:15 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto

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