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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: bugzilla@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The meaning of RESOLVED/UPSTREAM on bugzie
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:58:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170330175820.GB4981@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1490796901.1141.1.camel@gentoo.org>

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On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On śro, 2017-03-29 at 16:01 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2017, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > I'd like to bring the problem of ambiguity of 'UPSTREAM' resolution
> > > on our Bugzilla to the discussion.
> > > While the resolution generically indicates an issue upstream, it is
> > > used differently by different developers, and sometimes even in a
> > > few meanings by a single developer. What's even worse, it is both
> > > used as a positive, neutral and negative resolution which renders it
> > > kinda meaningless as a classification criteria.
> > > [...]
> > > How would you feel about removing/disabling the UPSTREAM resolution,
> > > and expecting developers to use UPSTREAM keyword + regular
> > > resolution?
> > > Any other ideas?
> > 
> > Use it in the sense as it is defined in Bugzilla?
> > 
> > UPSTREAM
> >     The requested bug is considered to be out of the purview of the
> >     distro and should be submitted/discussed directly with the
> >     respective upstream project. This could include a number of things
> >     such as changing default configuration options or behavior, adding
> >     new options or functionality, or deleting support for older
> >     systems.
> > 
> > IMHO it would be out of proportion to remove the field, just because
> > some developers don't use it as intended.
> 
> What is your plan on making the developers use it correctly?

I'm with ulm on this, we shouldn't remove the resolution just because
developers haven't been using it correctly; that would be trying to
solve a social issue with a technical fix which would make future
resolutions invalid.

As I said in my other post, resolved/invalid = "this is not a bug.", but
resolved/upstream = "this is out of our scope as a distro, please
discussit with upstream."

They are slightly different meanings, but I think we should keep both of
them.

William


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-30 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-29  7:56 [gentoo-project] The meaning of RESOLVED/UPSTREAM on bugzie Michał Górny
2017-03-29  9:29 ` Marek Szuba
2017-03-29 13:49   ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-03-29 14:10     ` Seemant Kulleen
2017-03-29 14:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-03-29 14:15   ` Michał Górny
2017-03-30 17:58     ` William Hubbs [this message]
2017-03-30 18:34   ` Kent Fredric
2017-03-30 18:41     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-03-30 18:46       ` Michał Górny
2017-03-30 19:05         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-03-31 13:13           ` Rich Freeman
2017-03-31 14:38             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-03-31 14:45               ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-06 18:14                 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2017-03-30 18:50       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-03-30 19:40         ` Kent Fredric
2017-03-30 19:50           ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-03-30 19:58             ` Kent Fredric
2017-03-30 20:49             ` Michał Górny
2017-03-29 14:15 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-03-30 17:52   ` William Hubbs
2017-03-30 17:54     ` M. J. Everitt
2017-03-30 17:55     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-01 12:28 ` Andreas K. Huettel

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