From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1901E139085 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25AD0E0EC2; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECC6CE0EB5 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from katipo2.lan (unknown [IPv6:2406:e001:1:d01:de0e:a1ff:fea1:6ec4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kentnl) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ABC8341655 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:57:43 +1300 From: Kent Fredric To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Rekindling Gentoo News -> Paying for news Message-ID: <20170123065743.5093af2b@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <20170123060052.622b7950@katipo2.lan> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/+aT.1.9c7NKTCUvVS5WI3g7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 1638c4f1-c4c3-45f2-9b03-7d9e4de63658 X-Archives-Hash: 9e61832aceecb0280b4050057acbc7d1 --Sig_/+aT.1.9c7NKTCUvVS5WI3g7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 12:17:25 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > I do not see businesses spending money on Gentoo for a variety of factors= . As=20 > a business owner myself I have no incentive. Gentoo would waste my money = and=20 > not direct it toward development. Gentoo has no plans to use the money to= =20 > further development. >=20 > I would be better off doing what companies do now. Hire people who are Ge= ntoo=20 > developers, and/or can become one. Then I can pay them to do directly wha= t I=20 > want. By passing anything within Gentoo, Trustees, Council, etc. >=20 > Companies are doing this now. They have no reason to give money to Gentoo When you talk about yourself, I think you're not asking the right question. Given: - There are opensource organisations - There are companies that give them money - This is a thing - These organisations typically don't have focused directed outcomes from s= aid donations ( because if the donations were earmarked it would be a payment, for services rendered, not a donation ) Why do companies give their money away? Also, have you considered Gentoo *could* create workflows where given gentoo developers do specified volumes of work, planned in advance, for pay, using money given to them by organisations?=20 Grant Structure. And its not like Gentoo doesn't need developers, or have lots of ugly things that require somebody to basically be a full time developer to get it done. Hence, Companies that *USE* Gentoo are the primary audience *because* they = use Gentoo, and are thus a natural benefactor from any Gentoo improvement. And as Gentoo is important to their businesses success, it makes sense to i= nvest in that infrastructure you're otherwise getting for free. --Sig_/+aT.1.9c7NKTCUvVS5WI3g7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEPZazbI/qrFT1o9rn6FQySxNmqCAFAliE8qMACgkQ6FQySxNm qCA50RAAn+6LWZTuk/lN6A0z8KyxbkeDeVGgf4lJg+FpmITMO9ToZKaEQtRtUCWy EmrlezJFbgprOFwXn73kPFVUauO6dKQbhafnRwfkfrkmLJuwxTRCRYkBNO7Pn4hd HweQEeK8jzSB6LTxry5hjIZS01F53ezTQPjRb/TY+ROdCpg92mbG/Q6MFlTfmu5d v93YwWsw1WE1V2a5KpJv5Z05USHpTbNlAsolyN4tIEbG5aAlHsUfc4RRyZZlRNa9 sYPSS/r9pkjwvqJDXmOtbADXh9Ttr7W2QEgvWmnbjm703kWnwDtBozwKWw2XT9US tNtzN5VNPUpwoiyHjVzrKRnHiWJ4b60dgLmvxUIqr4eAG/nuGq6CPaA6lYhzIkrM 3S56f6wH8k8kun241Py/n97vFWJCM6wW8xhpD82kU8+EVq0hjd+2n+b+bl5VdQp3 sxHJZ6C4O0Hn+7Qv5mRLrInOPaEopLR7nsqWpV4D/4CB1A4r9WpQhdIkdDYo2DjU uu3dGCSieVsEjeYAMrCstIDDxXAYk5eOKzziJmvF72sCsRIS7oCl9ewAQNCHXOSB uDWI2tStBcOq23rM2m576KMmWTWZA01QKMG472h2J2UmP5yhzB6oLpTT/FaTJFxL 6XpZQhoJ+D1n6iBQ4WxN4NkDKJbv50nfe4LDtlAASi5BAvRmA54= =ypkm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/+aT.1.9c7NKTCUvVS5WI3g7--