Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal

["Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>]

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:31:14 -0500
"William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:05:30 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 06:38:10 -0800
> > 
> > Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:  
> > > 
> > > I think a more fair restriction would be to place it on Comrel and
> > > Council, as they are being trusted to not share private information.
> > > What the two (or more?) sides do in a dispute isn't something we can
> > > reasonably control, except on our own infrastructure. I find it
> > > unnecessary and meaningless to place sanctions on users or other
> > > participants of a conflict if they choose to make their communications
> > > public. It's /their/ dirty laundry, after all.  
> > 
> > This particular point, aside to ensuring that teams keep the necessary
> > secrecy, serves the goals:
> > 
> > 1. to discourage users from taking 'revenge' on others by disclosing
> > their secrets,
> > 
> > 2. to discourage users from bickering and turning Gentoo into a public
> > stoning place whenever they are unhappy with a disciplinary decision.
> > 
> > The first point is more important. Consider the following case. Alice
> > tells Bob her secret. Some time later Bob starts bullying Alice.
> > Eventually, Alice files a complaint at ComRel and Bob gets banned. Now,
> > Bob wants to reveal Alice's secret to take revenge on her.  
> 
> Making everything public ensures no secrets. Privacy and secrecy should not 
> exist or be needed for a public open source project. With the only exception 
> being security vulnerabilities for obvious reason.
> 
> Any event being handled likely started in public to begin with, thus should 
> remain that way for 100% transparency. Also to ensure no problems with leaking 
> or making private/secret information public. Solves many problems.

I can understand that you have no life outside Gentoo but some people
do, and they have a right to keep them private.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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