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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: Dean Stephens <desultory@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:41:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170117184148.7d7130c4.mgorny@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5db6cef2-34b4-6355-0563-9c242b229e08@gentoo.org>

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:56:30 -0500
Dean Stephens <desultory@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 01/15/17 14:23, Michał Górny wrote:
> > 
> > What do you think?
> >   
> I think this proposal is utterly unworkable in practice. While the
> intention is rather obvious, and heavily geared toward actual
> contributing members of the community at large, the proposed
> definitional scope and structure are incompatible with actual workloads
> already in place.
> 
> To provide some perspective to those unfamiliar with the actual volumes
> in consideration here, just on the forums there are typically several
> "users" manually banned per day for posting spam, and perhaps a dozen or
> two profiles manually banned because the profiles themselves were spam,
> in addition to that there are typically hundreds (in some cases
> thousands) of accounts which are effectively automatically banned due to
> their spam content or at the very least matching reported user profiles
> on Stop Forum Spam[1]. Opening a Council bug for each of these would be
> an insurmountable workload if done manually, and at the very least a
> ludicrous volume of completely pointless mail to all Council members;
> but it is *exactly* what would be required by this proposal.

It sounds like you have a major technical problem and you do not even
attempt to solve it. There are many ways of attempting to divert bots,
and I don't think we should really be using inability to handle spam as
excuse not to report your actions.

Of course, regarding multiple replies received, it would probably just
be reasonable to generate simple periodical reports instead.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-17 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-15 19:23 [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal Michał Górny
2017-01-15 19:38 ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-15 20:06   ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-15 20:02 ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-15 20:13   ` Kent Fredric
2017-01-15 23:05   ` M. J. Everitt
2017-01-16 17:54     ` Alec Warner
2017-01-15 21:59 ` Dale
2017-01-16  5:00   ` Dean Stephens
2017-01-15 22:55 ` M. J. Everitt
2017-01-16  0:25 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2017-01-16  0:44   ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-16  0:55     ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 11:16   ` Jeroen Roovers
2017-01-16 19:35     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2017-01-17 17:38   ` Michał Górny
2017-01-16  4:56 ` Dean Stephens
2017-01-16 13:22   ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-01-16 13:40     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-01-17  4:30       ` Dean Stephens
2017-01-17  4:29     ` Dean Stephens
2017-01-17 17:41   ` Michał Górny [this message]
2017-01-20  5:02     ` Dean Stephens
2017-01-16 20:57 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-17 17:49   ` Michał Górny
2017-01-17 18:54     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-17 19:03       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-17 19:40         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-17 20:20           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-18  5:33             ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-18 17:07             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-17 14:38 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-01-17 15:26   ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-17 18:05   ` Michał Górny
2017-01-17 18:13     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-01-18 17:31     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-18 18:25       ` Michał Górny
2017-01-18 18:31         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-18 19:05           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-18 19:13             ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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