From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-project+bounces-6278-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B3B1139085 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC029234054; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A99CB234042 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from katipo2.lan (unknown [IPv6:2406:e001:1:d01:de0e:a1ff:fea1:6ec4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kentnl) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EADCE340FC1 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:13:54 +1300 From: Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal Message-ID: <20170116091354.0e36f20a@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_mcN6fnHvE3LqUYuOgjdcgvTU_hzKGV5bOZTafWs2et9A@mail.gmail.com> References: <20170115195209.70d3a748.mgorny@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_mcN6fnHvE3LqUYuOgjdcgvTU_hzKGV5bOZTafWs2et9A@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/KlHL39kOgOJ+WPwTLh0h3Kl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: f4db212e-5dd8-4062-b406-f62ab3859d2a X-Archives-Hash: df0720cdea7bbf8ee8788baab58190cd --Sig_/KlHL39kOgOJ+WPwTLh0h3Kl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:02:53 -0500 Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote: > I'd prefer that transparency be done in an anonymous way. I'm fine > with the individuals being affected by a disciplinary action > voluntarily choosing to allow this information to be divulged. > However, if somebody is the subject of discipline they shouldn't be > turned into public examples for a few reasons: Would a way for allowing such excluded members to set "away" flags, and have the status of those "away" flags being visible in the relevant channels be a suitable approach? That way its up to the individual to set it, but the visibility can be only binary, "away" or "present" ( much narrower than the dev-away system ) That way the interpretation and definition of that state is up to individua= ls, and people who are given "you're banned" notices can be simply reminded tha= t they can change this flag if they want to. That would at least solve the "user is unaware that person can't/wont actio= n on bugzilla" side of the problem. You could allow it to be freeform, but I see that as too much a temptation = as a further venue to be abusive. --Sig_/KlHL39kOgOJ+WPwTLh0h3Kl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEPZazbI/qrFT1o9rn6FQySxNmqCAFAlh72A4ACgkQ6FQySxNm qCCtWQ/8C102zUNDfaCmvZSjBffCQwKCldHaLf2cT5iXPsuXkbAAjrZB9SkKsok4 nrK6WELt7BWK6n9oDJa3etSZQbbvWOQhceZicMUQgte7yvb4+RIC6vyiNiIoiAo9 dDl3PlGw0Ti3k/qGvj453dQSBE5BafSQNHN9b2i/GShTQzJrNNWoqTWj25ZyXEvq Il1wmEHS7R10nNa7pzQWdrHNfsh9UTwuQLFIFzMJO5RtxrEoxbYw4BOIzg661QN8 JqhZkHH68uo7qJLbNfbNpstgvK1O+ZlT1z43Nu/HEOaSDC9owjBqJ6QZTeWVMgfB cD6p33imY9Ld8MTBdJQOr6gusmqPa6aUsolZDvs80at9pNlowPYIvAiwNUgev6iK 9JeTu0tU4JsaH39NhNZk8CXgCPF9Jk22OhPdWqTTErPY76Od994KJPkMXwD+/egr +r7yghe4hJMwFQA+yJAWTFpptD+XTTVtukgrwTRKuxAqbNOKkhCtdV3iFp02qSO+ ETdS05GZe3l2xMeEhjuV5243rra3OM26LIz/ZdjH0b3Vn9I2fGNObca1R3q9MsvK JB9ry9iW5LErBcOAdmH5hAupOgVtOEj8gCMEnenFseXg7CZa9VD7jg5rHwyRmzr4 rDunjofTw85nPVqwD+aHWGAl2LECVJxjBW8+wsFTthCUnGD/820= =1+Ww -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KlHL39kOgOJ+WPwTLh0h3Kl--