Re: [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation - 1.0 reply

["Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>]

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:04:29 -0800
Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:56:16 -0500
> > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:46:34 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:  
> > > >
> > > > 1. I do not mind encouraging more developers to join the Foundation, or
> > > > even making it opt-out. However, I do oppose discriminating developers
> > > > who decide not to join the Foundation.  
> > >
> > > There should not be any discrimination. Just an understanding by opting  
> > out  
> > > you give up your voice/vote.  
> >
> > And how is that not discriminating? On one hand you talk of giving
> > people outside the project the means to influence it, yet you
> > explicitly take away the right of voting for people outside
> > the Foundation (even though they are in the project, after all).
> >  
> 
> To put it another way:
> 
> 1) One goal is to have more foundation members who are also developers
> (alignment of ideas).
> 2) If joining the foundation offers no benefit, then developers will not
> join.
> 3) One benefit we could offer is to merge the voting pools, so that the
> voters for Trustees and the Council are the same.
> 4) This means that anyone who "really cares about how Gentoo is run as a
> distribution" is nominally forced to join the Foundation to exercise their
> vote.
> 
> This is a specific implementation of the basic idea that "the foundation
> has no interesting duties, so we need to give it interesting duties." I
> suspect there are other ways of making Foundation membership useful enough
> that people actually pursue it.
> 
> (Reading it written out it does look like a fairly draconian approach.)

Exactly my point. So why do we want to pursue that? Wouldn't it better
to make it really optional, and turn Foundation membership into a thing
developers would be proud of?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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