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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation - 1.0 reply
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:55:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170111185517.6e62c7ab.mgorny@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAr7Pr-O4TfH3fcC0QaWkQwJRKQqeNgi45+1Ujv52=VjjdVekQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:56:44 -0800
Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Matthias Maier <tamiko@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > What about you have a closer look at for example the Debian project [1]?
> >
> > There, the project and its developer community is not organized in any
> > legal entity.
> >
> > All business that requires a legal entity is organized via *mutliple*
> > foundations [2,3] - none of which have any power over the project
> > itself.
> >
> > This is exactly the model we have at the moment.
> >
> > So what on earth is the problem?
> >  
> 
> I suspect one problem might be:
> 
> 1) Most developers are not interested in Foundation affairs.
> 2) The Foundation is often minimally staffed with enough members (to vote)
> and trustees (to run the foundation legally.)
> 3) In the past, the Foundation failed to renew its New Mexico filing (which
> was fixed later.)
> 4) The status of the Foundation with regards to the US tax organ (the IRS)
> is decidedly unclear at this time (but its being worked on.)
> 
> So there is some concern that the Foundation is not being run well in the
> current system. Keeping the current system is worrisome (as a current
> trustee, I certainly worry about it!) This is one reason why I think the
> status quo is a bad idea.

Thanks for clarifying. This brings the next question: how does adding
more functions (== work) to Trustees improve the state of affairs they
can't handle already?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-10 22:37 [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation - 1.0 reply Matthew Thode
2017-01-10 23:03 ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-10 23:34 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11  7:54   ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-01-11  7:50 ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-01-11 10:03   ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-11 10:19     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-01-11 10:59   ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-11 12:24     ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 12:59       ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-11 14:07       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-11 15:23         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 15:49           ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-11 15:18       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 16:50         ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 16:54           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-01-11 17:16             ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 17:42             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 16:56           ` Alec Warner
2017-01-11 17:06             ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 17:20               ` Alec Warner
2017-01-11 19:16                 ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 17:39               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-12  5:53                 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-01-11 17:55             ` Michał Górny [this message]
2017-01-11 17:01           ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 17:41             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-12  0:03               ` Matthias Maier
2017-01-11 17:33           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-25 20:32       ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-25 20:40         ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-25 20:51           ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-26 16:02           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 15:06     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 15:11     ` Michał Górny
2017-01-11 15:29       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 15:56         ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-11 14:46 ` Michał Górny
2017-01-11 15:56   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 16:50     ` Michał Górny
2017-01-11 17:04       ` Alec Warner
2017-01-11 18:04         ` Michał Górny
2017-01-11 17:28       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 18:55         ` Michał Górny
2017-01-11 19:17           ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-11 21:13           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-11 16:06   ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-11 16:58     ` Michał Górny
2017-01-15 15:55       ` Roy Bamford

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